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Old 10-08-2007, 10:15 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Here is my Poll
1. LSU
2. Ohio State
3. Cal
4. Boston College
5. South Florida
6. South Carolina
7. Oregon
8. Missouri
9. Virginia Tech
10. Arizona State
11. West Virginia
12. Florida
13. USC
14. Wisconsin
15. Oklahoma
16. Cincinnati
17. Illinois
18. Kentucky
19. Kansas
20. Hawaii
21. Florida State
22. Auburn
23. Tennessee
24. Texas A&M
25. Georgia

I am prepared for the onslaught of "Haystack, you don't know crap".
Florida with two losses ahead of 3 undefeated teams and Oklahoma, Illinois, Kentucky, Auburn(who beat them) at least that many are ridiculous.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Tennessee and Georgia at least need to switched places man, they destroyed Georgia, Florida 25? that's crazy and Kentucky is on there twice. I believe Tennessee should get some of there respect back,i mean they did lose to Cal and Florida (two pretty good teams). I know your a state fan but if you believe FSU is better than the Gators you are a very Bias fan.
Where did i say they were better, this is a top 25 poll, and Florida has two losses, it's not a power ranking. Whenever other teams start losing more games and have even numbers of losses, Florida will move back up, but get off the SEC's jock and admit a team with two losses doesn't belong ahead of teams with none or teams with one and a good schedule. Hell Florida's loss was at home to an unranked team, they are lucky to be in the poll at all. If it wasn't for homer voters who won't move teams that start off high in the polls down...cough**USC{cough... and slobber all over SEC jock...cough**..coaches poll..{cough.., Florida would probably have dropped out after two straight losses, with one at home to an unranked team(who lost to Miss. Frickin St.).

And the second Kentucky was supposed to be Tennessee's spot, when I fixed the Oklahoma one I must have doubled them up instead of putting UT in the 25 and UF in the 24.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:55 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Florida with two losses ahead of 3 undefeated teams and Oklahoma, Illinois, Kentucky, Auburn(who beat them) at least that many are ridiculous.
O so you think that teams who have better records should be ranked higher than teams with worse records. OK, well your poll is wrong:
Cincinnatti is undefeated they should be ahead of all one loss teams, so should, missouri, kansas, connecticut, and hawaii, but that is not shown. I go by teams who appear tp be better not just wins and losses.
Flordia Lossed to Auburn and LSU
Oklahoma lossed to Colorado a team that is much worse than Auburn In my opinion.
Flordia ranked 25 is ridiculous, they are still a great football team and still better than most teams in college football.
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Where did i say they were better, this is a top 25 poll, and Florida has two losses, it's not a power ranking. Whenever other teams start losing more games and have even numbers of losses, Florida will move back up, but get off the SEC's jock and admit a team with two losses doesn't belong ahead of teams with none or teams with one and a good schedule. Hell Florida's loss was at home to an unranked team, they are lucky to be in the poll at all. If it wasn't for homer voters who won't move teams that start off high in the polls down...cough**USC{cough... and slobber all over SEC jock...cough**..coaches poll..{cough.., Florida would probably have dropped out after two straight losses, with one at home to an unranked team(who lost to Miss. Frickin St.).

And the second Kentucky was supposed to be Tennessee's spot, when I fixed the Oklahoma one I must have doubled them up instead of putting UT in the 25 and UF in the 24.
Rankings and Polls help determine the BCS and when making a poll you select in order who you think the best teams are in order, not just number of losses. It should be determined by quality of losses and wins and by putting FSU in the 17 spot you are saying they are better than florida in the 24 spot.
And by using your logic Georgia should be 25, tennessee 24. florida 23, and Auburn 22.
By what i understand is your logic it should be like this
Auburn beat Florida, Florida beat Tennessee and Georgia lost to Tennessee, but with that Said Auburn lossed to Georgis so we are back to square one, but Georgia has 2 losses in the SEC which should penalize them imo and Auburn has lossed to one sec and a pretty good south florida team.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:13 AM   #15 (permalink)
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O so you think that teams who have better records should be ranked higher than teams with worse records. OK, well your poll is wrong:
Cincinnatti is undefeated they should be ahead of all one loss teams, so should, missouri, kansas, connecticut, and hawaii, but that is not shown. I go by teams who appear tp be better not just wins and losses.
Flordia Lossed to Auburn and LSU
Oklahoma lossed to Colorado a team that is much worse than Auburn In my opinion.
Flordia ranked 25 is ridiculous, they are still a great football team and still better than most teams in college football.
My point was having a TWO loss team ahead of any undefeated team...other than UConn who hasn't played anyone yet, is ridiculous.

As for who they LOST to, Oklahoma has one loss to a good, not great Colorado team. Florida lost to a great LSU team and a good Auburn team, but if you don't penalize teams for losing more and more games, what.. Florida has 5 losses and stays in the top 25 because YOU THINK they are a great team...

Florida is ahead of Tennesee, it was a typo by me.
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Rankings and Polls help determine the BCS and when making a poll you select in order who you think the best teams are in order, not just number of losses. It should be determined by quality of losses and wins and by putting FSU in the 17 spot you are saying they are better than florida in the 24 spot.
And by using your logic Georgia should be 25, tennessee 24. florida 23, and Auburn 22.
By what i understand is your logic it should be like this
Auburn beat Florida, Florida beat Tennessee and Georgia lost to Tennessee, but with that Said Auburn lossed to Georgis so we are back to square one, but Georgia has 2 losses in the SEC which should penalize them imo and Auburn has lossed to one sec and a pretty good south florida team.
OK quality, Florida beat Tennessee, a barely 1A Western Kentucky, a bad Troy team, a bad Mississippi team and lost their other games to good teams.

FSU, lost to a good Clemson team, and beat a good Colorado team, a bad UAB team, a bad NC St. team, and a good Alabama team, so you know what, at this point, FSU is better.

I love how you put the common opponent thing in the bottom, but Auburn didn't play Georgia, so you are making things up... they lost to USF and MSU, and Florida has two SEC losses as well, but you don't punish them for it, just Auburn, pretty funny.
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you have WVU and Florida ridiculously low and you have Connecticut not only there but Top 20, theyre 30 at best....

1. LSU
2. Cal
3. Ohio State
4. Boston College
5. South Florida
6. South Carolina
7. Oklahoma
8. West Virginia (how you have them so low because they lost to a top 5 SFU team @ SFU with Pat White hurt is beyond me)
9. Oregon
10. USC
11. V Tech
12. Mizzou
13. AZ State
14. Florida
15. Cincy
16. Hawaii
17. Illinois
18. Kentucky
19. Kansas
20. Wisconsin
21. FSU
22. Auburn
23. Georgia
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My point was having a TWO loss team ahead of any undefeated team...other than UConn who hasn't played anyone yet, is ridiculous.

As for who they LOST to, Oklahoma has one loss to a good, not great Colorado team. Florida lost to a great LSU team and a good Auburn team, but if you don't penalize teams for losing more and more games, what.. Florida has 5 losses and stays in the top 25 because YOU THINK they are a great team...

Florida is ahead of Tennesee, it was a typo by me.
Your point is well received i just disagree with some of it. I understand your logic but I think the quality of team Flordia is should mean something. Of course there is alot of football left to be played so you never know, crazy things have happened. I think the bigger concern moving forward is really the top 5. Those are the teams who should be concerned with the polls. I have Ohio State at Number 2, but i do really like Cal and i believe they have enough to claim number 2. They have beaten some good teams already. Who knows. You know what i think would be hilarious, if Michigan ended up winning the Big Ten. I would laugh hysterically. Got to love college football.
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you have WVU and Florida ridiculously low and you have Connecticut not only there but Top 20, theyre 30 at best....

1. LSU
2. Cal
3. Ohio State
4. Boston College
5. South Florida
6. South Carolina
7. Oklahoma
8. West Virginia (how you have them so low because they lost to a top 5 SFU team @ SFU with Pat White hurt is beyond me)
9. Oregon
10. USC
11. V Tech
12. Mizzou
13. AZ State
14. Florida
15. Cincy
16. Hawaii
17. Illinois
18. Kentucky
19. Kansas
20. Wisconsin
21. FSU
22. Auburn
23. Georgia
24. Texas
25. Tennessee
I don't understand this? Why is georgia ahead of Tennessee? They just Stomped the crap outta them?
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8. West Virginia (how you have them so low because they lost to a top 5 SFU team @ SFU with Pat White hurt is beyond me)
6 Turnovers, terrible defense, one dimensional offense, I thought they were overrated before they lost, and when a team like that loses, I think they should plummet.

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14. Florida
Two losses, and no really quality wins, but yet they deserve to be in the top 15... not in my opinion. I explained it earlier so read back if you want my reasoning.
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