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01-22-2006, 03:31 PM
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Time for performance
I think that 2006 needs to be the year the Falcons step up their performance and make some noise in the offseason. I'm not a die hard Falcons fan by any means, but it is frustrating watch them underperform.
I think they have got the tools necessary to be a top tier NFL team, but they have not played that way. Vick, Dunn, and Kearney are more than capable of leading their team to some success.
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01-22-2006, 06:57 PM
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for the Falcons to be successful Mike Vick has to learn to trust his recievers. he can't just always pass to Crumpler. When Price was run out of town everyone said it was he didn't do what the franchise thought he would. I think it was because Vick did a very poor job of getting him the ball. Vick is getting better at passing the ball, but better won't win this team a Super Bowl.
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01-23-2006, 05:35 AM
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for the Falcons to be successful Mike Vick has to learn to trust his recievers. he can't just always pass to Crumpler. When Price was run out of town everyone said it was he didn't do what the franchise thought he would. I think it was because Vick did a very poor job of getting him the ball. Vick is getting better at passing the ball, but better won't win this team a Super Bowl.
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Vick is only a QB because he's too skinny to be an RB. He's only now learned to pass respectably, and as you said, only to one reciever. However, this also happens to be the year that other teams' defenses learned how to control his erratic style of play, and they did so very successfully a number of times. Vick needs to be a backup, playing behind a talented passer. Then they can switch him in for a change of pace, and have one passing QB and one rushing QB. That will never happen though. Just like the Falcons will never make the playoffs until they get a talented, conventional quarterback.
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01-24-2006, 09:59 PM
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Vick a Backup QB?
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Originally Posted by stormdriver
Vick needs to be a backup, playing behind a talented passer. Then they can switch him in for a change of pace, and have one passing QB and one rushing QB. That will never happen though. Just like the Falcons will never make the playoffs until they get a talented, conventional quarterback.
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Wow...Bold statement. I really have to disagree with you. How could you move somebody as talented as Vick to a backup QB?? That is just crazy! I know I made the thread criticizing Vick, but there is no way anybody could make him a second string.
I think that they need to get some better WRs to help Vick, and Vick does need to do a better job finding them. MickeyG said it right.
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01-26-2006, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MickeyG
for the Falcons to be successful Mike Vick has to learn to trust his recievers. he can't just always pass to Crumpler. When Price was run out of town everyone said it was he didn't do what the franchise thought he would. I think it was because Vick did a very poor job of getting him the ball. Vick is getting better at passing the ball, but better won't win this team a Super Bowl.
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It ain't a trust issue. It's a read issue. The boy can't read a defense. He doesn't even watch film because "the defense you see on the field is never the same one you see on film"
He's been exposed. He's done. Maybe he can return punts...
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01-26-2006, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by stormdriver
Vick is only a QB because he's too skinny to be an RB. He's only now learned to pass respectably, and as you said, only to one reciever. However, this also happens to be the year that other teams' defenses learned how to control his erratic style of play, and they did so very successfully a number of times. Vick needs to be a backup, playing behind a talented passer. Then they can switch him in for a change of pace, and have one passing QB and one rushing QB. That will never happen though. Just like the Falcons will never make the playoffs until they get a talented, conventional quarterback.
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This ain't college. You can't just switch QB's for a "change of pace". In the Pros, the backup gets almost no snaps at all in practice. That's why you rarely see QB by committee in the big leagues 
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01-26-2006, 05:48 PM
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This ain't college. You can't just switch QB's for a "change of pace". In the Pros, the backup gets almost no snaps at all in practice. That's why you rarely see QB by committee in the big leagues 
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I did say it would never happen, and I agree with you. However, now that Vick's style of play has been figured out, he's gonna do nothing for the next few years but get beat down by opposing defenses. So, establishing the FIRST system in the NFL that allowed for switching QB's out would be the only real way to use him effectively. Again, though, I will say that's not gonna happen. Now the Falcons will struggle until they see fit to get rid of him.
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01-26-2006, 08:40 PM
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Just because QB by committee doesn't happen in the pros doesn't mean they can't start. Remember teams used to never even throw a forward pass. Everything has to start somewhere.
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01-26-2006, 10:16 PM
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I dont think that Vick will ever be a great passing QB he does not get that you have to study for the games. He does have a nice win loss record and it would be hard to say he would never make it to the playoff again. Reading these post my idea instead of having him as a backup QB why not use him like "Slash" he could be OK at WR and you could line him up at RB some of the time. You keep moving him all around the feild and keep getting him the ball in different way it would make the defesne job much harder.
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01-27-2006, 03:15 AM
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Just because QB by committee doesn't happen in the pros doesn't mean they can't start. Remember teams used to never even throw a forward pass. Everything has to start somewhere.
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Exactly. And that kind of sporatic, unpredictable offense would be very difficult to defend against as well. So who would make a good co-quarterback for the Falcons?
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