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Old 08-22-2007, 06:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The whole second-chance-after-punishment argument is valid if you ask me. They're being kinda flamboyant about saying it, but that's pretty much the root of what they're saying. They're not being Vick apologists or suggesting he didn't deserve to be punished (although the last comment at the end can be all kinds of misinterpreted).

It makes me think about something else, we really do treat ex-cons like **** in this country. If a guy goes to prison or has a felony on his record, no matter what it's for, everyone will look down on him for the rest of his life and assume he'll always be a ****up because of that and he won't be able to live a normal life. Which isn't fair. It kind of defeats the purpose of rehabilitation and being punished in the first place.

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Old 08-22-2007, 06:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Saying Nappy Headed Ho's is WAY worse than torturing and murdering dogs.

And the Duke Lacrosse players are rapists....
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I didn't say I liked everything the NAACP does. Or even black "leaders" for that matter.
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't see the point in talking about second chances right now. He needs to serve his time then plead his case that he has changed himself for the better as a result of this situation. Get that done first and then yeah I don't have a problem seeing the guy return to the league down the road. It's just going to be a little more difficult to find that second chance in the NFL due to the PR aspect here (assuming of course that Goodell would let him back which I think he would after a year suspension).
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Yeah this is all a really big "if." We all saw what Tank Johnson did with his 2nd, 3rd, 4th chances.
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lostfan @ Aug 22nd ) [snapback]2081060[/snapback]</div>
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I didn't say I liked everything the NAACP does. Or even black "leaders" for that matter.
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Sorry didn't mean to quote you. Just in response to the original post.
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One thing I learned about this is that there are alot of African-American racists in this country.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lostfan @ Aug 22nd ) [snapback]2081065[/snapback]</div>
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Yeah this is all a really big "if." We all saw what Tank Johnson did with his 2nd, 3rd, 4th chances.
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Yeah unfortunately these spoiled athletes don't learn very well.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DHNF @ Aug 22nd ) [snapback]2081067[/snapback]</div>
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Sorry didn't mean to quote you. Just in response to the original post.
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Gotcha.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(wbgrafix @ Aug 22nd ) [snapback]2081068[/snapback]</div>
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One thing I learned about this is that there are alot of African-American racists in this country.
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...And plenty of hypocrites and judgmental douche**** know-it-alls to go along with that fwiw. But yeah, the response from certain parts of the black community has been downright ****ing embarrassing. I hate it when some people are allowed to speak in public and they set the race back 10 years. The ones that were stressing "Constitution" etc. were on to something but so many of the others were being Vick apologists for ALL the wrong reasons. i.e. "I hope he gets off just so we can get back at the white man, I don't care if he did it or not." (Not much of an exaggeration of a quote I read, btw).
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