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WaltsOrangeCBears · 09-22-2006, 08:57 AM

Whenever Rex Grossman makes an entrance, any kind of entrance, the theme song should be "Don't Start Believin."'

I say this because the fantasy football people don't seem to be buying into the Rex Mania that is sweeping, predictably, through this dusty cow town of ours. You get a quarterback around here with an arm, good looks and training wheels on his swagger and all of a sudden it's Sid Luckman-meets-a-healthy-Jim McMahon. That's Chicago when it comes to the Bears.

Never mind that they have played two crummy teams so far.

Now, I don't want to put too much credence into what people who spend every waking hour studying NFL statistics have to say, but it's interesting to note the disparity between what a city is feeling about Grossman and what outsiders are seeing in him.

After the Bears beat the Packers, Sports Illustrated listed Grossman No. 1 under the heading "Week 1 Wonders" in its fantasy report and then offered a big "Howdy!" to our hero.

"Grossman remains a reserve quarterback in even the deepest leagues," the magazine said.

Against the Lions, Grossman threw four touchdown passes, which led SI to write in this week's fantasy section: "Is Bears quarterback Rex Grossman this good or are the Packers' and Lions' defenses this bad?"

I vote on the side of bad defenses, but that doesn't answer the fundamental question of whether Grossman is good. It's a question that can't be answered now, as much as the true believers want it to be. When it comes to Grossman, the body of work is still so small it's in the preemie ward.

If you have studied Grossman, you have to be an agnostic. You just can't know yet. You will know a lot more Sunday in Minnesota, against a much better defense than the Packers and the Lions allegedly have under contract.

"We're off to a good start, but that's all it is, a good start," Grossman said, and bless him for his perceptiveness.

He also said, "I've still got a long way to go," and you could almost hear the cries from the fans milling around Chicago: No, Rex! Don't say it! You, a child, shall lead us!

He showed flashes of big-time quarterbacking ability in the first two games. On more than one occasion he dropped a pass between defenders so softly you would have sworn the ball was a sleeping baby.

He also looks to be good for at least one truly awful pass a game.

And this is where it gets scary. This is where you need to scrounge up some faith.

We saw it against the Packers when he threw a terrible first-quarter interception into the end zone and was held back the rest of the game by a jittery coaching staff.

We saw it against the Lions, when he threw a third-quarter interception that was nullified by a penalty. The pick didn't count, but it's not forgotten either.

That's the rub with Grossman, and you have to decide how much room you're going to give him to grow.

Answer: Don't baby the kid.

Can they win with this type of approach, with a risk-taker who might, at times, undo the work of a great Bears defense? To take it away from him is to take away his game. To take it away from him is to turn him into an airbrushed Kyle Orton. That's not enough. Last year wasn't enough.

You give Grossman enough breathing room to use his talents and prove he's the guy. If you have decided this is your quarterback of the future—and general manager Jerry Angelo has through every surgical procedure—then you have to let him be the quarterback he's supposed to be.

If the Bears' defense is as good as it says it is, then it probably won't matter anyway.

After the victory over the Lions, a reporter asked Grossman whether the rest of the league might be surprised by the Bears' offensive firepower. Grossman implied that most of the doubters were the ones holding pens, notebooks and cameras in the interview room.

"This is catching you by surprise," he said. "We've always known we had a good offense."

He can be a little snippy at times. That's a good thing. He will need it while there are still doubters among us.

Alas, even the Tribune's own "NFL Fantasy Forecast" had this to say Thursday about Grossman:

"The quarterback's hot streak will end against Minnesota on the road. … Grossman will throw for fewer than 200 yards and no more than one TD."

Sigh.

Gobears81 · 09-22-2006, 09:07 AM

imported_Megatron · 09-22-2006, 10:00 AM

Every quarterback that gets significant play in a season throws interceptions. Sometimes the defense can outwit an offense or a QB gets hit during a throw or a receiver runs a wrong route or a receiver tips the ball instead of catching it or the QB's pass attempt sucks, it happens.

Holy run-on sentence Batman!

Hopefully Rex can limit mistakes this season with proper film studying. So far the man is doing what is needed to be done and that is all I ask of him.

Question. Has there ever been a starting QB that went through a season without a pick in his stats?

Duds47 · 09-22-2006, 11:48 AM

If the Lions defense is so bad, how did it keep Shaun Alexander and Pro Bowl QB matt Hasselbeck out of the end zone????

Gobears81 · 09-22-2006, 11:50 AM

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If the Lions defense is so bad, how did it keep Shaun Alexander and Pro Bowl QB matt Hasselbeck out of the end zone????
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Regarding Shuan Alexander....that sound you will be hearing this year is his production crashing
back to earth not runnnig behind the best LT LG combo in football. Heck maybe the best combo in the
past decade.

greylion · 09-22-2006, 11:54 AM

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Whenever Rex Grossman makes an entrance, any kind of entrance, the theme song should be "Don't Start Believin."'

I say this because the fantasy football people don't seem to be buying into the Rex Mania that is sweeping, predictably, through this dusty cow town of ours. You get a quarterback around here with an arm, good looks and training wheels on his swagger and all of a sudden it's Sid Luckman-meets-a-healthy-Jim McMahon. That's Chicago when it comes to the Bears.

Never mind that they have played two crummy teams so far.

Now, I don't want to put too much credence into what people who spend every waking hour studying NFL statistics have to say, but it's interesting to note the disparity between what a city is feeling about Grossman and what outsiders are seeing in him.

After the Bears beat the Packers, Sports Illustrated listed Grossman No. 1 under the heading "Week 1 Wonders" in its fantasy report and then offered a big "Howdy!" to our hero.

"Grossman remains a reserve quarterback in even the deepest leagues," the magazine said.

Against the Lions, Grossman threw four touchdown passes, which led SI to write in this week's fantasy section: "Is Bears quarterback Rex Grossman this good or are the Packers' and Lions' defenses this bad?"

I vote on the side of bad defenses, but that doesn't answer the fundamental question of whether Grossman is good. It's a question that can't be answered now, as much as the true believers want it to be. When it comes to Grossman, the body of work is still so small it's in the preemie ward.

If you have studied Grossman, you have to be an agnostic. You just can't know yet. You will know a lot more Sunday in Minnesota, against a much better defense than the Packers and the Lions allegedly have under contract.

"We're off to a good start, but that's all it is, a good start," Grossman said, and bless him for his perceptiveness.

He also said, "I've still got a long way to go," and you could almost hear the cries from the fans milling around Chicago: No, Rex! Don't say it! You, a child, shall lead us!

He showed flashes of big-time quarterbacking ability in the first two games. On more than one occasion he dropped a pass between defenders so softly you would have sworn the ball was a sleeping baby.

He also looks to be good for at least one truly awful pass a game.

And this is where it gets scary. This is where you need to scrounge up some faith.

We saw it against the Packers when he threw a terrible first-quarter interception into the end zone and was held back the rest of the game by a jittery coaching staff.

We saw it against the Lions, when he threw a third-quarter interception that was nullified by a penalty. The pick didn't count, but it's not forgotten either.

That's the rub with Grossman, and you have to decide how much room you're going to give him to grow.

Answer: Don't baby the kid.

Can they win with this type of approach, with a risk-taker who might, at times, undo the work of a great Bears defense? To take it away from him is to take away his game. To take it away from him is to turn him into an airbrushed Kyle Orton. That's not enough. Last year wasn't enough.

You give Grossman enough breathing room to use his talents and prove he's the guy. If you have decided this is your quarterback of the future—and general manager Jerry Angelo has through every surgical procedure—then you have to let him be the quarterback he's supposed to be.

If the Bears' defense is as good as it says it is, then it probably won't matter anyway.

After the victory over the Lions, a reporter asked Grossman whether the rest of the league might be surprised by the Bears' offensive firepower. Grossman implied that most of the doubters were the ones holding pens, notebooks and cameras in the interview room.

"This is catching you by surprise," he said. "We've always known we had a good offense."

He can be a little snippy at times. That's a good thing. He will need it while there are still doubters among us.

Alas, even the Tribune's own "NFL Fantasy Forecast" had this to say Thursday about Grossman:

"The quarterback's hot streak will end against Minnesota on the road. … Grossman will throw for fewer than 200 yards and no more than one TD."

Sigh.
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Who's the author of this?

I buy the fact that the Bears need to continue to do this vs better competition, I think they will.

As for the Vikings, how many points will they be able to score, not many is my guess?

WaltsOrangeCBears · 09-22-2006, 05:24 PM

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Who's the author of this?

I buy the fact that the Bears need to continue to do this vs better competition, I think they will.

As for the Vikings, how many points will they be able to score, not many is my guess?
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Rick Morrissey of the Tribune.
it was on www.Chicagosports.com

URL54MVP · 09-22-2006, 05:29 PM

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He also looks to be good for at least one truly awful pass a game.

And this is where it gets scary. This is where you need to scrounge up some faith.

We saw it against the Packers when he threw a terrible first-quarter interception into the end zone and was held back the rest of the game by a jittery coaching staff.

We saw it against the Lions, when he threw a third-quarter interception that was nullified by a penalty. The pick didn't count, but it's not forgotten either.
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Maybe Rick should try pulling his head out of his *** and realizing most QB's throw a few questionable passes and picks each season. If the worst you can say about the QB is that he throws one bad pass per game then I think that is pretty amazing.

Gobears81 · 09-22-2006, 05:36 PM

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Rick Morrissey of the Tribune.
it was on www.Chicagosports.com
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gotcha.

Whenever posting a Morrissey article it's best to cite him as the source, you
don't want people thinking you wrote that gargabe.

**lostfan** · 09-22-2006, 05:47 PM

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gotcha.

Whenever posting a Morrissey article it's best to cite him as the source, you
don't want people thinking you wrote that gargabe.

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I was about to add "Jay Mariotti" to that, but you can usually tell his brand of bull**** without even seeing the label. Or maybe not, because a lot of people usually just skip over his part of the Sun-Times.

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