gruntbygod

There is nothing wrong with taking a chance on proven talent, but repeatedly taking a chance on questionable indviduals could cripple a team

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Jeb

Marvin is a gambler. Plain and simple and he knows that he is and he knows the odds.

We have too much depth to be crippled by the loss of even a couple of these "bad boy" players. Anyway, except for Henry and Thurman, we are talking about just a bunch of rookies and some of them may not make it. They do have to fight for a spot. No one is going to hand it to them and the competition is heavy so they better worry more about cementing their job before their personal life or they won't make it and will be just another bust of an NFL player. All hype, ...no game.

Marvin is just telling them to prove it like he did with Palmer and the "I hate the Steelers" comment. Its good motivation.

Yes, it could be we have a rookie and newbie bench of nothing but potential future Stanley Wilson's. I hope not but its possible.

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gruntbygod

But what happens down the line when those rookies cement starting jobs, and then then get suspended for four games or a season? The Cowboys got tanked with people like Irvin and Lett getting suspended. Players like Nicholson, Rucker, Brooks, Henry, those guys will probobly be solid starters, but what happens when they cant play?

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Jeb

They took a chance on Henry but his issues were totally different than the trouble he finds himself in today. The Bengals staff had no clue he could have these types and amounts of problems. You can never tell about someone. They may workout or they may not. It seems to me that every player is a gamble of some sort, ...even Carson Palmer (injury).

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Jeb

Oh, you mean like OD'ing on cocaine prior to the Superbowl? The guy that was to help run it down their throats but is found huddled on the bathroom floor the night before ...kind of play? Yeah, I know a little bit about being let down in a huge, monumental sort-of-way. Been there! Done that! Own that ragged old T-shirt that has been well worn for many years. Am I nervous? You betcha!

There is a saying in the jungle. In Marvin I Trust! Its worked well so far so I will keep the faith brother.


Jeb

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gruntbygod

But at this point why gamble on Brooks, character issues have already hurt the team this season, and one game hasnt even played. Brooks has a world of talent, and Lewis is a gambler, but considering Henry and Nicholes are up in the air, and Thurman is gonna miss the first four games, was it a smart gamble? What happens if 3 of these players gets suspended at the same time? If you dont think it would be that bad, I will try to find some footage of Deion starting at WR when Irvin was suspended

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Jeb

Why not gamble on Brooks. I don't care about how it looks in the news. That's just fodder for the off-season talk.

You bring up "at this point." OK, lets take a look at it right now. We are flush with talent. Right now the vets could care less about all this talk about the "bad boys." It doesn't affect their job this season because none of these guys is mandatory for us to make the playoffs.

We're already set with the best team we can afford right now. I think its a very solid team.

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gruntbygod

Most of those players, save for Henry and Thurman, probobly wont make an impact this year, but every one of those players is caplable of winning a starting job down the line Cincy had a great young team last year, and should be great for years to come, but repeatedly adding players with issues, that could blow up in their face down the line. It has already happened with Thurman, and possibly Henry.

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Jeb

I hope you're wrong but there is always that possibility but that leads me back to Henry. His antics are strictly out of left field. If you look back on his college record, it was an attitude problem not DUI, drug use, and gun play, ...LOL. Oh, I forgot, ...a little R Kelly action too.

Attitude problems are a red flag for a lot of teams but not all of them. Some coaches know how to deal with those players and are willing to take them on. Other coaches couldn't and would avoid that player at all costs like he was a leper.

Marvin knows how to deal with attitude problems so it was no big deal for us to draft Henry. However, we didn't get that much attitude from him he just went wild on us and nobody could have foresaw his current problems. I think he has deep issues he needs to talk out with someone. Somehow, I think Henry will turn it all around but believe it or not, I think seeing what Odell is doing to himself will do it for Henry. I may be wrong but I believe that. I see him as a survivor. A loner but still a survivor if he can get his act together in time but he's not an addict.

Odell is the one that worries me the most. I see him as I saw Stanley Wilson. A true addict. I hope I'm wrong.

...my 2 cents, fwiw!

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Potatoking

Jeb is right, the it's more than worth the risk

Brooks could be a superstar or he can get suspended and be released in the off-season
I would take those odds

Marvin is a good coach

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