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Old 07-08-2006, 10:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I think the know-all panels that rate the qb corps figure more stat than talent and situation.The Browns have some good young arms and Im not so sure that Ken Dorsey isnt the best qb on the squad.If you look at the invironment in San Fran,he had no one to hand off to,no one that he could throw to and no one of any talent putting up blocks.Luckily he was in a qb rotissery so he didnt get beat up alot.Drougns is a proven back,I think Braylon is a quality receiver and with some average blocking(which we haven't had in years)the offense should at least be in the middle of the pack.I have thought for years the defense has been adequate but they were out on the field way to long which scewed the stats.This was proven when the whole front left and went to Denver and had productive games even though I still dont think Brown and Warren were worth a first round pick.

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Old 07-08-2006, 05:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think the know-all panels that rate the qb corps figure more stat than talent and situation.The Browns have some good young arms and Im not so sure that Ken Dorsey isnt the best qb on the squad.If you look at the invironment in San Fran,he had no one to hand off to,no one that he could throw to and no one of any talent putting up blocks.Luckily he was in a qb rotissery so he didnt get beat up alot.Drougns is a proven back,I think Braylon is a quality receiver and with some average blocking(which we haven't had in years)the offense should at least be in the middle of the pack.I have thought for years the defense has been adequate but they were out on the field way to long which scewed the stats.This was proven when the whole front left and went to Denver and had productive games even though I still dont think Brown and Warren were worth a first round pick.
I still think Frye is the heir apparent for you guys. He's young and will need a little more time to work out his game but I think he's got what it takes. Of all the teams in our division its the Browns that I see as more dangerous this year for us. It all depends on how long it takes your team to gel. That could happen early or later. That's why you are the great unknown this year.
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dorsey is awful and will never amount to a hill of beans, it will be hard for braylon to do anything when he won't even be playing until the middle of the season. Thier defense is definitely improved, but they have a ton of ?'s on offense. Winslow has never taken a snap and they have only JJ after edwards and he is hardly a number one.
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Yeh I wish if only Rodgers hadnt slid on that fateful draft day we could have had frye to ourselves... damn!
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still think that frye is not the #1 guy

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BEREA, Ohio — When Charlie Frye was a youngster growing up in Willard, he idolized Cleveland Browns quarterback Bernie Kosar.

Frye had a poster of Kosar taped to his bedroom wall.

Despite his unorthodox sidearm throwing motion and limited mobility, Kosar was one of the most popular players in Browns history, leading the Browns to three AFC Championship game appearances.

Kosar, from nearby Boardman, and Frye struck up a friendship last year shortly after the Browns selected Frye in the third round of the NFL draft from the University of Akron.

Kosar, who doesn’t have an official role with the organization, has quickly become Frye’s friend and mentor.

With Trent Dilfer gone, Kosar likely will play an even bigger role in the development of Frye, the Browns’ latest starting quarterback.

"Bernie grew up near here, got drafted by the Browns and developed into their starter," Frye said. "I’m in a very similar situation. My hometown is about an hour and a half from here, and the college I went to is 45 minutes away.

"I’ve bounced a lot of things off of Bernie since I first got to know him last year. One of Bernie’s strengths as an NFL player was his smarts. He knew how to run an offense and how to win games. And he’s tried to pass on some of that knowledge to me."

Kosar has taken such a liking to Frye that he suggested Frye wear his No. 19 jersey.

Frye resisted the temptation. He plans to keep wearing No. 9, partly out of respect for Kosar.

Frye, who played in seven games as a rookie last year, admits he has a long way to go before he can be compared with Kosar, who like Frye steers clear of the spotlight.

"Starting five games last year was a great experience for me, it was huge," Frye said. "You can’t draw that kind of stuff up on a chalkboard or learn it in the classroom or on film. You need to be in the fire, so to speak, to really get a feel of what it’s like, and I did that.

"Now that I’m the No. 1 guy, I just have to keep getting better and keep improving during minicamp and training camp. I can’t afford to take a step back now. Everybody in the organization is counting on me."

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