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Old 11-27-2012, 05:45 AM   #11 (permalink)
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lol I've been saying that ever since this 4 team playoffs were announced. If it was this year 3/4 of the playoffs would be SEC teams.
I disagree....especially if Bama wins the SEC CCG. I see ND, Oregon and 2 SEC teams. Bama and UGA if UGA wins it or Bama and UF if Bama wins it. Oregon had one bad game and lost. I don't see them getting left out of a 4 team playoff
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:44 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I agree for the most part, MF. I'd say Florida would be in with the winner of the SECCG, with the loser dropping. ND/Florida and Oregon/Bama (or Georgia)is exactly how I think it should be. If it ended with Bama/Florida, so be it. At least they played their way in, as opposed to being voted in. This is why we wanted a playoff.

The whole idea that it will still be filled with teams from the SEC is ridiculous. I see at the most, two a year. More than likely though, we'd be looking at the major conference champs getting in most years, with the occasional odd years. An 8 team playoff really would be better in my opinion.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:11 AM   #13 (permalink)
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More than likely though, we'd be looking at the major conference champs getting in most years, with the occasional odd years. An 8 team playoff really would be better in my opinion.
Oddly, only one conference champ would be in the playoff this year -- assuming Georgia/bama, Florida, ND, and Oregon made it in. It seems that losing an early season conference game is probably best if a a good team can avoid a 50/50 conference championship game.
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Oddly, only one conference champ would be in the playoff this year -- assuming Georgia/bama, Florida, ND, and Oregon made it in. It seems that losing an early season conference game is probably best if a a good team can avoid a 50/50 conference championship game.
True, and I could see the rules changing to fix that. Eventually, they'll figure it out and we'll get a legit championship game. I'm hoping for 8 teams eventually. AQ champs and next two highest ranking teams. Too easy, and it preserves the regular season and conference championships.
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I promise you that if we had a four teamer the participants would be ND, Fla, Bama/UGA winner, and Oregon. There is no debate otherwise. Had A&M bony lost to LSU then things could get tricky and SEC likely gets three in (in that case the SEC CG would be A&M/UGA).
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True, and I could see the rules changing to fix that. Eventually, they'll figure it out and we'll get a legit championship game. I'm hoping for 8 teams eventually. AQ champs and next two highest ranking teams. Too easy, and it preserves the regular season and conference championships.
You really think an unranked Big East team would deserve to go over a 10 win top ten team from a major conference? The problem with automatically taking conference winners is that OOC games become almost meaningless. An eight teamer would essentially ruin the sport.
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You really think an unranked Big East team would deserve to go over a 10 win top ten team from a major conference? The problem with automatically taking conference winners is that OOC games become almost meaningless. An eight teamer would essentially ruin the sport.
Nope, but I don't think they deserve what they get now either. That's why you leave slots for teams that didn't win an AQ conference. Ideally, I'd like to see six teams, with the Big East and ACC dropped from "AQ" status. With six teams, SEC, B1G, B12 and P12 champs all go. The two highest ranked teams left also go. 1/2 get a bye. Obviously, there is no perfect scenario and there will always be people that are unhappy. If you don't agree, why? What would the perfect post season look like in college football?
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Obviously, there is no perfect scenario and there will always be people that are unhappy. If you don't agree, why? What would the perfect post season look like in college football?
I agree, thre is not a perfect scenario that will keep everyone happy. You go to a 16 team playoff and the regular season is heavily devalued. 9-3 gets a power team in.

Here is how I think things should be to keep teams and fans happy while preserving the regular season. #1 is conference uniformity. They don't all have to have the same number of teams but they all need to play the same number of conference games (ideally 8) and all need a conference championship. #2 is to do away with divisions. Have a fair rotation and the top two teams play in the conference championship. Last year we would have gotten LSU/Bama part 2 in the SECCG. The top four then go to the playoffs. 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3.

Another idea I had (not saying I support it, just saying its an idea) is do away with the conference championship games and go up to an eight team playoff. First round has to be home field advantage. I am against automatic qualification just for winning a crappy conference. As I run through this in my head I really don't like the regular season impact it has.

Even though 99% of the people hate it, I still wouldn't mind the Four Team Plus model. Big Ten #1 vs P12 #1 in the Rose Bowl. No exceptions. Then the next four highest go to two other semifinal games. The two highest ranked remaining teams of the three semifinal winners go to the NCG. Assuming Bama, Stan, and Neb all win this weekend you would get Rose : Stan vs Neb, Fiesta : ND vs Org, Sugar : Bama vs Fla. NCG then is likely Bama vs Org.
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Oddly, only one conference champ would be in the playoff this year -- assuming Georgia/bama, Florida, ND, and Oregon made it in. It seems that losing an early season conference game is probably best if a a good team can avoid a 50/50 conference championship game.
That is only b/c OSU is ineligible. Otherwise you would have 2 conference champs this year. But that is what happens when you have CCGs and that is one reason why I am against CCG. You can go thru the entire regular season undefeated but lose to a team you may have already beat and now you would be out of the playoffs.
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That is only b/c OSU is ineligible. Otherwise you would have 2 conference champs this year. But that is what happens when you have CCGs and that is one reason why I am against CCG. You can go thru the entire regular season undefeated but lose to a team you may have already beat and now you would be out of the playoffs.
Not necessarily. What if OSU lost the CC game?
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