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Old 12-02-2012, 07:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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They announced the finalists:

Braxton Miller
Johnny Manziel
Manti Te'o
Marquise Lee
Colin Klein

I expect Johnny Football to win, but its not a given yet.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No surprises with the finalists, although Colin Klein got a little push on Sat. being the only one playing.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Passing:
350-490 71.4comp% 4004yds 42TDs total 6 INTs 164.6 rating
180-272 66.2comp% 2490yds 37TDs total 7 INTs 156.1 rating
273-400 68.3comp% 3419yds 43TDs total 8 INTs 155.9 rating
332-507 65.5comp% 3989yds 29TDs total 10INTs 146.5 rating
148-254 58.3comp% 2039yds 28TDs total 6 INTs 140.5 rating

Receiving:
112rec 1680yds 15.0avg/rec 15TDs 2588 all-purpose yds
106rec 1501yds 14.2avg/rec 23TDs 1629 all-purpose yds
110rec 1266yds 13.4avg/rec 17TDs 2767 all-purpose yds
104rec 1392yds 13.4avg/rec 13TDs 1397 all-purpose yds

Can you guess who each of the above stats go to? 2 of the QBs are on the Heisman list and only 1 of the receivers are on the list. I know you can't go by stats alone, but you can see by looking at these stats why I have such a huge problem with the Heisman. It is nothing more than a popularity contest and is a joke.
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Passing:
350-490 71.4comp% 4004yds 42TDs total 6 INTs 164.6 rating
180-272 66.2comp% 2490yds 37TDs total 7 INTs 156.1 rating
273-400 68.3comp% 3419yds 43TDs total 8 INTs 155.9 rating
332-507 65.5comp% 3989yds 29TDs total 10INTs 146.5 rating
148-254 58.3comp% 2039yds 28TDs total 6 INTs 140.5 rating

Receiving:
112rec 1680yds 15.0avg/rec 15TDs 2588 all-purpose yds
106rec 1501yds 14.2avg/rec 23TDs 1629 all-purpose yds
110rec 1266yds 13.4avg/rec 17TDs 2767 all-purpose yds
104rec 1392yds 13.4avg/rec 13TDs 1397 all-purpose yds

Can you guess who each of the above stats go to? 2 of the QBs are on the Heisman list and only 1 of the receivers are on the list. I know you can't go by stats alone, but you can see by looking at these stats why I have such a huge problem with the Heisman. It is nothing more than a popularity contest and is a joke.
Geno Smith
Collin Klein
Johnny Manziel
Landry Jones
Braxton Miller

Marquise Lee
Stedman Bailey
Tavon Austin
Quinton Patton

Three of those QBs are on that list, not two. The only player you listed who might have a complaint would be Landry Jones. Don't think I didn't notice you're just complaining about WVU not getting their guys in with inflated stats. Generally, the Heisman winners come from good football teams. It's not about stats either, but I'm sure you knew that.
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Manziel should be the one hoisting the award, he went up with the best of the best in the SEC and performed exceptionally!
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Manziel should be the one hoisting the award, he went up with the best of the best in the SEC and performed exceptionally!
The only reason he wouldn't would be because he was a freshman. But even by being a freshman, I think he may have a shot at even 2 Heisman awards and he improves and continues his success.

I look forward to him bring the Aggies a few more good years in the future and more importantly some recruits for once!
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There are only 3 finalists...
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Lee is the most talented athlete in the country. I expect him to be the next Randy Moss. I would give it to him, but I could see why some wouldn't give it to a WR. WR is not as crucial of a position as QB/RB or DEF.
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Geno Smith

Three of those QBs are on that list, not two. The only player you listed who might have a complaint would be Landry Jones. Don't think I didn't notice you're just complaining about WVU not getting their guys in with inflated stats. Generally, the Heisman winners come from good football teams. It's not about stats either, but I'm sure you knew that.
It wasn't really that hard to go to ESPN and look up the stats by ratings was it? Like I told Aggie, I think the Heisman is a joke, I've felt that way for years and can back it up by previous posts. But can you tell me why is Miller on the list? Yes he went undefeated but what exactly did he do throughout the season? His stats are average at best. And you can say that I am complaining that Geno isn't on the list but can you tell me exactly why he wasn't? He had 2 bad games, but so did Manziel, Lee, and Klein. And you can't say Geno's stats are inflated when both Jones and Klein have pretty much the same schedule. The Heisman is supposed to be about the best player, nowhere does it say he has to be the best player on one of the best teams. There is no reason why a 4 or 5 win team can't have the Heisman on their team if he's deserving.

As for Lee, Austin, and Bailey...what makes Lee a better WR than the other two? What did Lee do that they other 2 didn't? Lee had more yards than both but fewer TDs than both. Austin had more all-purpose yards than both.

Hope nobody gets me wrong with this, all the guys on the list are deserving, but if you look at how each player performed over the season, I'm not sure how you can say some of those listed are better than some that are not.
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Manziel should be the one hoisting the award, he went up with the best of the best in the SEC and performed exceptionally!
He went up against the best and did great...but at the same time did horrible in two other games against top notch programs (UF and LSU). Against several other teams, his passing was not very good but he made up for it with his legs.

I cannot stand ND, but Manti Te'o deserves the award more so than anyone else. He is the anchor of the defense and the team. Opposing teams game plan around Te'o so it's not surprising that his numbers aren't as high as others but there is not doubt he is the man on ND's defense
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