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Old 12-24-2012, 08:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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You are a moron who knows nothing about TCU.
Now where is your Christmas and yuletide spirit? Santa is going to put a lump of coal in your stocking. I never claimed to be an expert on TCU, nor do I need to be. All evidence suggest that it is unreasonable to think TCU would dominate the Big 12 like it did the MWC.

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If not for record attrition, TCU would have done its usual this year. Few teams in the country would have performed as well as TCU did this season with similar attrition.
We never heard of excuses like record attrition when they were in the MWC. Teams that play in the better AQ conferences deal with that all the times as good players after their junior year will often leave for the NFL. For example Bama had 11 players go to the nfl four of which were underclassmen.


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The only thing funny is how the same hacks (you for one) continue to try to fit TCU into their preconceived notions. Sorry, it doesn't work. TCU did fine in year 1 in the Big12 and will do even better in year 2.
So exactly what is my preconceived notion of TCU? I never said TCU would be terrible in an AQ conference, I only stated that they would not dominate playing better competition and would struggle to win the Big 12 consistently. TCU is a decent team not an elite team like others have been saying.

And how am I a hack now for stating TCU record and Utah record in an AQ conference compared to the great success they had in the MWC? Those schools performed that way on the field, it has nothing to do with anyone's opinion.
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:19 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Now where is your Christmas and yuletide spirit? Santa is going to put a lump of coal in your stocking. I never claimed to be an expert on TCU, nor do I need to be. All evidence suggest that it is unreasonable to think TCU would dominate the Big 12 like it did the MWC.
Just because you wear the color red and may be fat, does not make you Santa Claus. More to the point, you don't get to throw a punch in here and then cry because you get hit back. Don't forget: the Internet is serious business.

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We never heard of excuses like record attrition when they were in the MWC. Teams that play in the better AQ conferences deal with that all the times as good players after their junior year will often leave for the NFL. For example Bama had 11 players go to the nfl four of which were underclassmen.
Which team lost 20+ players in a year and then dominated their conference that year? This is why it is important to have some knowledge of the facts so you don't make ridiculous statements. In reality, TCU did a great job this year with that type of attrition. Bama wouldn't have done any better nor most teams.

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So exactly what is my preconceived notion of TCU? I never said TCU would be terrible in an AQ conference, I only stated that they would not dominate playing better competition and would struggle to win the Big 12 consistently. TCU is a decent team not an elite team like others have been saying.
If you didn't know that TCU lost over 20+ players to attrition this year, your notion of TCU is irrelevant. You created a lazy conclusion without looking at the facts. It is clear you don't know what you are talking about and so should stop talking on the subject. You can backtrack your answer all you want now but your conclusion was a ridiculous one and you were justifiably called out for it.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:04 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Just because you wear the color red and may be fat, does not make you Santa Claus. More to the point, you don't get to throw a punch in here and then cry because you get hit back. Don't forget: the Internet is serious business.
lol Internet tough guys don't scare me at all. And just for your information I'm in the military and we have physical fitness standards so your attempt at humour fails hard.

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Which team lost 20+ players in a year and then dominated their conference that year? This is why it is important to have some knowledge of the facts so you don't make ridiculous statements. In reality, TCU did a great job this year with that type of attrition. Bama wouldn't have done any better nor most teams.
Which makes it more ridiculous is that people like you and Major Seahawk would believe that TCU could dominate the Big 12 at full strength even moreso with "attrition". Bama and other teams lose players all the time but they don't cry about it after making bold statements, they deal with it and perform, next man up.

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If you didn't know that TCU lost over 20+ players to attrition this year, your notion of TCU is irrelevant. You created a lazy conclusion without looking at the facts. It is clear you don't know what you are talking about and so should stop talking on the subject. You can backtrack your answer all you want now but your conclusion was a ridiculous one and you were justifiably called out for it.
It doesn't matter what I knew about TCU because I wasn't the one declaring and proclaiming that they would win the Big 12 and dominate the conference. I don't have to backtract anything because TCU 4-5 conference record speaks for itself, no matter how much you whine, cry, and complain using whatever excuse you can find. The fact doesn't change that TCU and Utah both have yet to reach .500 in an AQ conference after dominating the MWC which is exactly my point.
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lol Internet tough guys don't scare me at all. And just for your information I'm in the military and we have physical fitness standards so your attempt at humour fails hard.
Funny for about 2 seconds, then the egg nog faded away.

i would ask people to back off on the lame "hurt qb" excuses. they were undefeated not because they were an elite team, but because they played 3 teams with a losing record.

Also, whats with this attrition excuse? most (if not all) teams lose 20+ people per year (basic idea that 84/4 = 20+)

Whatever the case is, JD wont believe he is wrong ever. He is like a broken clock that waits twice a day to say "ha, i was right". If that comes in for TCU during year 2 of the Big12, fine. But it didnt happen in year 1 and it sure wont happen a majority of the time.
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TCU, along with Boise, are two squads that have had the advantage of playing in weaker conferences and picking and choosing whom and when they play the "top" squads. As a result, those squads have had the mentality that they could put all of their eggs in 24ish baskets and be fine for an entire season. They put those eggs in those baskets season after season until those baskets leave... Which was fine, because they could afford to replace said baskets pretty easy and still have success in their schedules... Small dips in their fourth seasons... Another example of this would be Mizzou.

The thing is, that when ALL of your games matter. When none of your games are cake walks... The dips you get in rebuilding years is going to sting... It's going to sting BIG time.

That's the fundamental issue with some of the schools moving into bigger conferences... Depth and development. You can look at top SEC teams and see that when they lose a key player, another player simply comes in and takes his place, as was said by BC... It's true. Bama really didn't lose a step after losing 11 player last year, LSU hasn't really missed a step. Georgia didn't lose a step even though two seasons ago they lost both top RBs, and also had to compete against top teams with 5 defensive starters missing time for infractions. The real game they play is proper red shirting practices, as well as having teams and squads that feed them talent on a regular basis. These teams don't have to beg to get the players... Players want to play there.

TCU is, if they play their cards right, 4 years away from making a deep program. Or they can again shoot for a decent team in 4 years only to start a new in four years... TCU and Boise have both had good runs in weak conferences... It's time that TCU can show what they can do from here on out. Otherwise, it's all talk and everyone will know that they were all hype when they were winning. At least TCU is staying put for the time being, unlike Boise that ran home like a b1tch with a scrapped knee, not once, but twice when their precious perfect seasons went away... Also, Mizzou isn't running, which is great because I like having them in the SEC.
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:28 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Boise st will stay in the MWC. A wise move for both the school and the conference. Look for SDSU, SMU and Houston to be in a bigger badder MWC soon. They can fill a void the little east created in 2004
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