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Old 01-16-2013, 12:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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which is more a flaw of the system than the actual team.

when SEC teams drops a game, they believe (and receive) a 2nd shot. when any other conference's teams drop a game, title hopes are over.
Pretty much what I was going to say. Don't worry, a championship game that matters is coming.
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which is more a flaw of the system than the actual team.

when SEC teams drops a game, they believe (and receive) a 2nd shot. when any other conference's teams drop a game, title hopes are over.
Not so much as you would like to have people believe. The fact of the matter is that when an SEC team drops a game, it's to a top 10-15 team... When others drop games, they drop them to scrubs or teams that everyone knows shouldn't be rated in the first place.
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Not so much as you would like to have people believe. The fact of the matter is that when an SEC team drops a game, it's to a top 10-15 team... When others drop games, they drop them to scrubs or teams that everyone knows shouldn't be rated in the first place.

I love SEC fans....So cool to see Vanderbilt, Kentucky and others get a 1/12th of a championship the last 2 years.



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Not so much as you would like to have people believe. The fact of the matter is that when an SEC team drops a game, it's to a top 10-15 team... When others drop games, they drop them to scrubs or teams that everyone knows shouldn't be rated in the first place.
Completely false. Losses to unranked teams in 2007 and 2008 didn't keep the SEC out. In 2007, two losses to unranked scrubs didn't keep them out. LSU shouldn't have even been smelling the top two. For that matter, I don't believe Ohio State belonged either. Last year, Alabama lost to LSU, but were given a rematch. There was nothing but crying from the south when talks of a rematch came up in previous years.

It's typical SEC bias. I can make a strong argument for another team nearly every year of the BCS era, and the homers are more than happy to continue claiming these "championships". When you have teams like Florida, LSU and South Carolina being ridiculously over ranked, it's easy to say the SEC plays a tougher schedule, or that their losses are somehow better. It's also completely ignorant to use that as justification. "Well their loss looks better, than that loss". A win is a win, and a loss is a loss.

What would have happened if Stanford had lost to UCLA and Oregon won the conference? Oregon/Stanford would have been very similar to Bama/A&M, yet Bama would still go based on nothing more than bias. That's the problem with the current system. It leaves much to be desired. 2014, we don't have these same issues. Different issues maybe, but it's a start.
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For the record, the LSU/Bama BCS should have never happened... I would have preferred perhaps the Cowboys... and that's another reason why I wouldn't put Saban as the top coach, he shouldn't have gotten last year's title. That being said, outside of them, I'm not sure whom I would have put in there against LSU... It just shouldn't have been Bama.

That being said, there's a big difference between dropping a game to say Georgia, then there is some other unranked team.
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That being said, there's a big difference between dropping a game to say Georgia, then there is some other unranked team.
I agree, but to me there isn't much difference in dropping a game to Iowa State versus dropping a game to say Ole Miss, or Stanford versus A&M, or Missouri versus Kentucky, or Auburn versus Ohio State, or any of the number of times an inferior SEC team was inflated in the rankings or in perception.

I'm not saying the SEC is bad, just that many times they benefit from teams being very overrated. Losing to a higher ranked SEC team shouldn't mean much more than any other loss, especially when those teams are embarrassed in their bowls.
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Fans from other conferences should welcome the challenge of trying to defeat a SEC team in the title game, instead of trying to figure out a way to avoid playing the SEC team. It sounds like some here are stating that since we haven't beaten the SEC in 9 BCS title games, we must band together to keep them out. lol

Only one SEC team (FL) was embarrassed in their bowl, and they drop from 4 to 9 in the AP. In the coaches poll they also dropped to 10 behind FL St who they also beat on the road. So again where in the polls are the SEC teams so "very overrated?"
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