HolyDiver

I expect the Broncos to draft a Runningback, but Dayne has more power than you think. That will probably be the deciding factor over who starts between him and Bell. Tatum Bell is a 4.35 fourty guy. But he doesn't have the power we need to convert the third and three. Dayne does. He will be the Ron Dayne of Wisconsin, not the Ron Dayne of the Giants. ................ A change of scenery can really make a player play totally different.................McCaffrey was drafted by the Giants and also played with the 49'ers. He did nothing in both places...............Under your philosophy, we should have never given Ed a chance. But we did, and the rest is history. He's the second best WR to ever play in Denver...................Third is Lional Taylor.

Professor

he was a WR that had talent and Ron Dayne has no talent. He is a bum. If he is not, why hasn't shanny given him the chance to start even when anderson and bell were hurt. He could have rested his guys, with this "Stud" that you speak of. But he doesn't because he knows that Dayne is not a feature back.

bigboy

First Bell has a lot more power then you think on his 10 3rd and 3 or shorter carries he has hit on 6 of them, that's 60% and good enough for 10th in the NFL. Dayne on the other hand has been trying to be used as a short yardage guy for about 6 years now and was cut in favor of a rookie in that role, because of what Coughlin said was a lack of power.

I agree a change of scenery just might work but your analogy is flawed. McCaffrey was a starter after being trapped in SF behind a couple great WR's when he came to Denver. He also had talent, something that Dayne just doesn't have. Look I would agree if the guy could break tackles or had agility or could run...he can't do either and can't catch the ball, he is worthless IMO and will be #3 again behind Bell and the rookie.

HolyDiver

I'll tell you this right now. Please bookmark this comment.................But if Dayne is the feature back, and doesn't have to split carries with any other back. He'll EASILY gain 1500 yards...................Bell could do the same thing................Because Denver runs the crap out of the ball. And both are very good backs. ............... So, I'll check back with you mid-season, around the end of October, and we'll see how you feel about Dayne then. I can't access my usual site from work anymore, so you guys are stuck with me for awhile................Who knows, I may end up really liking it here. I may be new here, but I know what to expect as a new poster in this forum.

Professor

dude, you never answered my question, if ron dayne was so good, then why when anderson and bell were hurt did he not become the man. Why was he still used sparingly while the broncos backs were forced to play with injuries.

and everyone on this forum has respect for everyone, that is why this forum is different than many others. You just can't go into anywhere and start arguing with people without having your facts straight. one of your first comments was accusing me of only seeing one play for the broncos when you don't even know me.

if you come in here or anywhere slinging guns than you are going to get some gunslinging right back at you.

I don't have any problems with you, I just disagree and if you don't like people disagreeing than you won't last in any forum.

HolyDiver

I'll out last you. Trust me, I see this all the time. I have no problem with you either. But I do know about the Broncos without having to pull up stats from the internet. Dayne is a good fit for Denver. And that's why Mike Anderson was let go................A two time 1000 yard rusher who can also play Fullback. A great locker room guy as well. Shanahan knows how good Dayne is. And he wants to believe in Bell. But he wears down too quickly. I originally thought Bell would set the league on fire..............And, he still could. But Ron Dayne is more of a complete back as far as being more powerful and a much better blocker. ............... I do know what I'm talking about, but it's not as easy as saying, hey, I know what I'm talking about..............Because anyone can say that.

Professor

I disagree with you on the power aspect, that is why he was let go from the giants and coughlin is a great coach. He has the occasional bust through a line but it is very infrequent

again

WHY WAS HE NOT THE MAN WHEN BELL AND ANDERSON WERE HURT?

and

WHY WAS A GUY LIKE KYLE JOHNSON USED AT THE GOALINE WHEN THEY HAD DAYNE AVAILABLE?

HolyDiver

Bell and Anderson were not hurt at the same time. For the most part, they were healthy the entire season. KJ was used, but not used enough. He's a weapon, that I feel was underutilized. Not a knock on Dayne. More of a compliment on Kyle Johnson's abilities. He scored 5 TD's as a Fullback. That's alot for a Denver blocking back.

Professor

it just seems to me that if you have a weapon that is a useful as dayne (in your opinion) then why did he only get 53 carries? Why not more? If shanny knows how good he runs behind the zone blocking schemes, why not utilize that talent as much as possible?

Isn't that wierd to you?

HolyDiver

Hard to get more carries. I mean, Anderson had over 1000 yards and Bell 921. Dayne had close to 300 it seems like, maybe more like 250 I forget. But just not enough carries to go around. But with anderson gone, Dayne will have his shot. I'm still not counting out Tatum Bell though. He was averaging 7 ypc until the last quarter of the season.