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Old 05-24-2006, 03:27 PM   #71 (permalink)
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The worst decision the Pack made was bringing Farve back this year. The bottom line is this. The absolute best case senario is that the Pack somehow manages to squeak into the playoffs, just to be eliminated in round one. That is best case. The reality is that Green Bay is rebuilding. With Farve in there, all this does is delay the inevitable rebuilding that will occur when he retires, and Rogers steps in. Why not do it all at once? Why drag it out for another year or two after Farve finally decides to retire?
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Old 05-24-2006, 03:47 PM   #72 (permalink)
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We are not going to the Super Bowl this year. Everyone knows that. However, A year to get Rodgers actually getting some snaps is probably a good idea. Also, there is not a single Pack fan anywhere that won't say they don't want Favre back. Rebuilding can wait, let's just win some games for now.
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Old 05-24-2006, 03:54 PM   #73 (permalink)
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We are not going to the Super Bowl this year. Everyone knows that. However, A year to get Rodgers actually getting some snaps is probably a good idea. Also, there is not a single Pack fan anywhere that won't say they don't want Favre back. Rebuilding can wait, let's just win some games for now.
This is where we probably will agree to disagree. I was raised to believe that in any league there are only two types of teams. One is the winner. All the others are the losers. There is only one team in the NFL that wins it's last game. I do not settle for second best. Positions 2-32 only tell me who is going to draft when in the next draft. They mean nothing else to me. As my signature indicates, "Winning is the ONLY Acceptable Solution.
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Old 05-25-2006, 02:34 AM   #74 (permalink)
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This is where we probably will agree to disagree. I was raised to believe that in any league there are only two types of teams. One is the winner. All the others are the losers. There is only one team in the NFL that wins it's last game. I do not settle for second best. Positions 2-32 only tell me who is going to draft when in the next draft. They mean nothing else to me. As my signature indicates, "Winning is the ONLY Acceptable Solution.
That's great, except that you are a Bears fan...
Sorry couldn't resist. Serious now. Do you not believe a team should have a rebuilding year now and then? To me, if you know your team's not gonna get a ring that year, you might as well just accept it. If by some miracle they do, you're even more stoked than you would have been. If they suck, at least you won't be disappointed.
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I hate to agree with packers fans but Storm is right.
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That's great, except that you are a Bears fan...
Sorry couldn't resist. Serious now. Do you not believe a team should have a rebuilding year now and then? To me, if you know your team's not gonna get a ring that year, you might as well just accept it. If by some miracle they do, you're even more stoked than you would have been. If they suck, at least you won't be disappointed.
This is my point. If your team is going to suck and is rebuilding, why not do it all at once? This year the Pack is going to rebuild. Then Farve is going to retire and the Pack is going to have to rebuild an offense around a new QB. So the longer Farve hangs around, the longer it takes to finish the rebuilding process, and the longer the Packer fans have to settle for mediocrity. As far as a rebuilding year, I seem to recall USC losing a Heisman Trophy winner named Palmer. All they did the following "rebuilding" year was win the National Championship. It didn't take them too long to rebuild did it.
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This is my point. If your team is going to suck and is rebuilding, why not do it all at once? This year the Pack is going to rebuild. Then Farve is going to retire and the Pack is going to have to rebuild an offense around a new QB. So the longer Farve hangs around, the longer it takes to finish the rebuilding process, and the longer the Packer fans have to settle for mediocrity. As far as a rebuilding year, I seem to recall USC losing a Heisman Trophy winner named Palmer. All they did the following "rebuilding" year was win the National Championship. It didn't take them too long to rebuild did it.
The NFL is quite differnt from college
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I've been away for a while, but i'm back now. First of all, if you are a Bears fan with that mindset...what a frustrating life you must lead? They haven't been a winner (by your definition) since '85 and it was like 40 years before that or something. That's part of the problem with sports today...you have to win it all or nobody remembers you. The problem is that most people only remember who won the "big" game as long as their Super Bowl buzz lasts and the next season they have to scratch their head and think about it to remember who actually did win the year before (nevermind two years before). It's all about the depth of your team, execution, the luck with some bounces of the ball and A LOT of luck with injuries. Only one team is gonna win it all and based on the depth issue, it's unlikely to be a team for the NFC North. The Bears aren't exactly rock solid and the rest of the division is in flux, so it'll be a battle to the finish, i predict...........Hyde
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Well...what I'll say on the matter is this: I'm not sure selfishness is what motivated Favre to come back for this season, but if by some long-shot it is, he'll be rethinking that attitude after he takes the beat down he's likely to take behind that offensive line. I don't think the Packers were going to have a great or very good team this year either way. How's he's hurt the team is in perception. If Rodgers was the QB right now, it would be a young team with a young coach and a young QB taking their knocks and growing pains. But because Favre is there it's become "Can it get any worse" "Is this any why for Favre to go out?" I actually saw a question the talking heads on ESPN discussed that was "What's it like watching Brett Favre play?" What?? Aren't WE all watching the games too?? Hehe. My point is, it's a young young team (for whatever reasons, right or wrong management-wise) that was going to take their lumps this year. Had Favre walked away, it would all be getting a lot less press than it is. But he didn't walk away by his own choice...I don't think the Packers exactly begged him to come back. It's fugly and bound to get fuglier. The only light at the end of the tunnel I see, is a team that next season will be armed with a high draft choice and TONS of salary cap money.....if they use it that is. Sad but true...
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Well...what I'll say on the matter is this: I'm not sure selfishness is what motivated Favre to come back for this season, but if by some long-shot it is, he'll be rethinking that attitude after he takes the beat down he's likely to take behind that offensive line. I don't think the Packers were going to have a great or very good team this year either way. How's he's hurt the team is in perception. If Rodgers was the QB right now, it would be a young team with a young coach and a young QB taking their knocks and growing pains. But because Favre is there it's become "Can it get any worse" "Is this any why for Favre to go out?" I actually saw a question the talking heads on ESPN discussed that was "What's it like watching Brett Favre play?" What?? Aren't WE all watching the games too?? Hehe. My point is, it's a young young team (for whatever reasons, right or wrong management-wise) that was going to take their lumps this year. Had Favre walked away, it would all be getting a lot less press than it is. But he didn't walk away by his own choice...I don't think the Packers exactly begged him to come back. It's fugly and bound to get fuglier. The only light at the end of the tunnel I see, is a team that next season will be armed with a high draft choice and TONS of salary cap money.....if they use it that is. Sad but true...

Looks like you idiots are eating your words now huh. Everyone who isn't a moron knew that Favre can still throw as hard as anyone and is still better than Brad Johnson and 75% of the other starting quarterbacks in this league Rogers is not the answer and never will be, Personally i would rather Craig Nall start over Rogers
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