Sir Fobos

Why isn't this offense more effective? It looks to me that there are two main problems.

1) Childress is not doing a good job of calling plays or managing the game in general. I like the fact that he sticks with the run, especially given the fact that the ground game has yet to kick in at full swing. I even like some of the unconventional plays he's called in certain key situations. But overall, many of the fans are left scratching their heads during much of the game when the offense isn't able to move the ball because of very questionable strategies. It may be time to give the playcalling responsibility to Bevell, the guy who spends all of his time working with the offense.

2) The offense as a whole seems to be lacking mental discipline and motivation. Obviously the penalties and dropped passes are mental errors. Players seem to tune out and lose their focus during the bulk of the game, performing well only when they are fresh at the begining and feeling urgency at the end. When it comes down to it, each player is responsible for his mental state during the game, but Brad Johnson and the coaching staff need to address this. If players can't stay fired up for the duration of each game, it's going to be a bad season.

Once these problems are solved, I'd expect that the Vikes would perform much more efficiently. Thoughts?

Gobears81

You guys just threw up 26 points

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Lord Odin

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gobears81 @ Oct 8th ) [snapback]1736110[/snapback]</div>He's talking about the offense, not the defense, which scored 13 points of it's own today.

Sir Fobos

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gobears81 @ Oct 8th ) [snapback]1736110[/snapback]</div>
The offense managed just two FG's and a single TD. The defense scored the other two TD's. The offense has been sputtering consistently from the get go.



*Sorry, Gobears.... I managed to hit the "edit" button instead of the "reply" button when responding to your post..

Gobears81

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lord Odin @ Oct 8th ) [snapback]1736148[/snapback]</div>
oh..my bad.

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imported_Slammed

I haven't had a chance to even watch a Minnesota game this year to try to even put in my 2 cents.

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Logan57401

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fobos @ Oct 8th ) [snapback]1736100[/snapback]</div>not sure that I would entirely agree with the comment that Childress has stuck with the run either.

Last week against the Bills, a team whos biggest defensive weakness was the running game, we only had 13 called running plays (and 3 QB scrambles)

Childress' only claim to fame when it comes to designing and calling offenses was being Andy Reid's goffer the last four years, and I really think he needs to admit that he is in over his head and give up control of that side of the ball.

He's a great "detail" guy and that makes him a good head coach, but he needs to admit that he's better as an administrator then he is a X's and O's guy.

The DED (dink em dizzy) offense is just that, dead! It lacks imagination and doesn't appear to know how to attack the other teams weaknesses. There are (appearantly) a limited number of plays in the offense, and unless the other team happens to have a weakness against them, it won't gain anything but yardage between the 20's

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Sir Fobos

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Logan57401 @ Oct 8th ) [snapback]1736219[/snapback]</div>Since Childress gave up on the ground game only once in five close games, I think that it was more a fluke than a tendency. We'll know more about him later in the season though.

As Odin mentioned while we watched the game, the gameplan should consist of punting the ball on 1st down and giving the defense an opportunity to score.

GoGiants98

I havent seen all the games but:

1) It seems like they call plays like they're playing not to lose a lot
2) Conservative playcalling
3) There's not a go-to guy int he passing game

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vikesrgreat

This is a good discussion in my opinion, and is well-timed. My thoughts are as follows:

1. If I recall correctly, before today's game, the Vikings were ranked 16th in total offense. In my opinion, that's not a bad rank for a team with a new head coach, new offensive coordinator, and new players in key positions.

2. Logan seems right in that the offense moves pretty well between the 20-yard lines. The problem is not that we have penalties on offense. It's that the penalties (holding, false starts) seem to often occur on key situations in the red zone, or after the Vikings make a big play on offense. The timing of the penalties seems to be a problem here.

3. So far in 2006, I have seen more than enough dropped passes by Viking WR's, especially from Troy Williamson. Marcus Robinson has also dropped a pass or two in key situations.

4. It's been my long-standing opinion that the Vikings need to take some shots down the field with long passes, to the tune of about 2 long passes per quarter. While there may be some risk of interceptions, there also will be opportunities for increased point production.

5. At 3-2, I think the Vikings are sitting pretty well. They have a bye this next week to get ready for Seattle the following week, and New England the week after that. If they can resolve the concerns on offense (especially the penalties in the red zone), they may be able to have a winning record, and become a playoff team.

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