jeter4982

To telll you the truth I wasn't really impressed with Eli too much this year either, but you have to remember that this is his first whole year in the NFL. He played about half a season last year, but last year was a joke with the players they had. I think a lot of the criticsm is coming from the fact that people are comparing if to Peyton, and he is not Peyton yet. If you rember back when Peyton was a rookie, and his first few years in the NFL, he played just as bad as Eli is right now. People were calling for Peyton to be benched, and look where he is now. I think all will work, its just a matter of time...

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guile

The thing that doesn't impress me about Eli is his arm strength. Maybe I am spoiled from watching Brady all the time, but to me it looks like Eli just floats the ball out to his target. Often times his receives have to stop in place and wait for the ball to arrive. By that time they are getting hit.

I haven't once seen Eli throw the ball through a brick wall. I've never heard a commentator say "He drilled that one" or "That ball was a bullet"...Everything he throws are these soft touch passes and it makes me question if he has the arm strength. Maybe it's just me.

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stormdriver

You're absolutely right, although I may be just as spoiled as you after years of Favre. Eli does seem to barely float the ball, and apart from recievers getting hit right as they make catches as you mentioned, it also makes him very easy to intercept (See last week). As far as comparing him to Peyton, you're right Jeter, it's not fair, Eli is nowhere near as talented as Peyton, and he probably never will be. the comparisons are just gonna happen though. My very subjective opinion (please take this with some salt) is that Peyton being who Peyton is is the only reason Eli is who he is. In short, Eli by any other last name probably wouldn't be an NFL starter. Then the Giants would have to look to their second string QB, Matt Hasselbeck's younger brother, Or maybe trade for the one of the Detmer brothers, or find the younger brother of someone else who's good right now.

Bet they get Marcus Vick too.. I see a trend starting here...

jeter4982

I think the arm strenth issue is a fair point, and I would definitely agree he throws a lot of some passes. Personally I don't think its a lack of arm strength, but rather fatigue. Now he is never going to say my arm is tired, but this is the first time he has ever played a complete NFL season. Last year he only played about half the year, and the year before that in college, he didn't have to play 17 games in a season. In the beginning of the year, I definitely think he looked a lot sharper, and I just think he wore out and got tired, and as a result his arm strength suffered.

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stormdriver

They have workout plans for that, and you don't see it happening to any other pro QB (except maybe Losman). If he gets that worn out after playing 16 games, he simply should not be a starting quarterback. Let him play backup for a year or two, fine-tune his passing accuracy and build some stamina, then go at it again. He's not Peyton. Lightning doesn't strike twice, and especially not in the same family. Without his INTs the Giants could have had a shot at winning that game, even with Barber getting stuffed. If Eli can't handle the pressure, stress, physical strain, or anything else, the Giants need to find someone who can.

guile

You could be right about fatigue as I didn't see him early in the year. The last couple games I watched, I wasn't impressed.

I think you can blame some of his interceptions on inexperience and trying to do too much. He will learn that field position is crucial in playoffs. The very first thing a quaterback should think about is not losing the game for his team. Forget about being a hero or living up to expectations of Peyton, just play smart. Don't take any chances at all, keep yourself in the game. Punting isn't such a bad thing. Whatever you do, don't turn the ball over!

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jeter4982

Ya, I agree with you that he was trying to do too much. Most Giants fans I know have given him a pass for this year, as it was his first full year, but they are expecting a lot more next year, and this kind of play will not be accepted in 2006.

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MickeyG

the Panthers just played them. Simple as that.

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jeter4982

Ya, the Panthers were the better team...I feel comfortable admitting that now, but I think it would have been a much closer game if the Giants had actually shown up to play.

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MickeyG

no doubt it would have been closer, but the Panthers still would have come out winners.

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