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Old 09-03-2007, 05:59 PM   #41 (permalink)
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well then we should all just give up and not watch sports or enjoy them and we should just crucify them. I watch sports to be entertained and to make some money at times, if these guys want to roid themselves up and shrink their dicks, who the hell cares, as long I enjoy myself and the games keep going. nufced
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:08 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I know, get off your high horses people DAMN.
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:33 PM   #43 (permalink)
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well then we should all just give up and not watch sports or enjoy them and we should just crucify them. I watch sports to be entertained and to make some money at times, if these guys want to roid themselves up and shrink their dicks, who the hell cares, as long I enjoy myself and the games keep going. nufced
lol have I once said that people should stop watching sports. I'm just sick of people believing that these sports are clean and only a select few people are juicing.
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You guys are so naive, and if you had ever read a book about steroids in professional sports you would understand the situation. First of all if you knew anything about testing you would no how easy it is to beat the system. They can take HGH, insulin, and other hormones natural made in the body. Then steroid testers can only test for steroids they no about, so many athletes take designer steroids which are built from scratch. Lastly the biggest threat to be getting caught are your testosterone levels. But in order to fail that your testosterone has to be over 6 times more then an average man. Professional sports are not clean, and just because you pass a test does not mean their clean.

Steroids are testosterone which is naturally produced by your body. Besides Harrison took HGH and was found out was he not. I just won't agree with you that these people are not clean. It seems like a whole lot of fuss to gain a few pounds of muscle and to get down .001 second on a 40 yard dash. Besides I'm sure they're smart enough to know the health risks of that, they make your bones brittle, and overall they are bad for your health. I won't agree with you that they aren't clean. Why are you hating on athletes that are idols to many kids of America and far beyond. That seems like kind of a ******** thing to do. You have to remember that this is their job, being a physical freak, and being incredibly fast, incredibly strong, incredibly big, and incredibly good at sports is their job. Think about that one.
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I just believe the evidence I see, otherwise I could give a fu<k what these primadonnas put in their bodies that I don't know about.
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From what I've read, the NFL does not test players for HGH, because they believe there is no reliable way to find it in urine, and the players union won't allow them to do blood tests. The evidence they have against Harrison is that he bought the stuff, not that he used it. As a Patriots fan, I am truly shaken by this. I happen to believe Harrison when he says that he has not been using them for enhancement purposes. I believe he used them to speed up the healing process, and that is all. And I understand why he did it. He realized that if he waited for his body to heal by normal means, that it might be too late for him to play in the NFL by that point. He probably rationalized that it was okay to use, as well, because there really isn't any proof that HGH has any negative affects on people, as there is with other steroids... that may be because it doesn't, or it may be because it has only recently been studied, so they just don't know. Lets remember that if he is being suspended for 4 games, that means its his second offense. This means he continued to use it after he was caught! I'm not sure what to make of that.

A lot of Patriots haters have compared this to Merriman, and have rationalized that Merriman should get more respect for the way he handled it. I just don't see that. First of all, I don't think the two cases are comparable, since Merriman was caught using a different steroid than HGH. Next, one can always deny they did anything wrong, and claim that the evidence is circumstancial... and only looks bad. One can always live in denial. I believe that was what was going on with Merriman. Harrison didn't do that. He stood up and admitted his wrong doing. He was pretty obviously remorseful about it as well. But this doesn't change the fact that he took illegal drugs... and that he continued to take them after he got a warning.

I have a lot of respect for Harrison, and am shaken to the root by this. I think the guy has a lot of class, and would not have guessed that he would be the one to pull something like this. I'm honestly not sure how to handle it right now, and feel that I need to read up on it more.
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The worst part about all this is that one day thiese drugs will come back and impact there health in a huge way. It's sad to see good guys like Harrison and Merriman go to path of taking drugs. It's just sad.
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Steroids are testosterone which is naturally produced by your body. Besides Harrison took HGH and was found out was he not. I just won't agree with you that these people are not clean. It seems like a whole lot of fuss to gain a few pounds of muscle and to get down .001 second on a 40 yard dash. Besides I'm sure they're smart enough to know the health risks of that, they make your bones brittle, and overall they are bad for your health. I won't agree with you that they aren't clean. Why are you hating on athletes that are idols to many kids of America and far beyond. That seems like kind of a ******** thing to do. You have to remember that this is their job, being a physical freak, and being incredibly fast, incredibly strong, incredibly big, and incredibly good at sports is their job. Think about that one.
This is a difference of opinion I've done tons of research and written a 12 page paper on them. Now I find it sad that you resort to name calling and playing on them being role models. Why don't you just start bashing Vick, Henry, Briggs, and T.O. for being bad role models.I leave you with the words of Victor Conte the man behind BALCO. "You see all the football players on tv. All the good ones are on steroids. All of them."
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This is a difference of opinion I've done tons of research and written a 12 page paper on them. Now I find it sad that you resort to name calling and playing on them being role models. Why don't you just start bashing Vick, Henry, Briggs, and T.O. for being bad role models.I leave you with the words of Victor Conte the man behind BALCO. "You see all the football players on tv. All the good ones are on steroids. All of them."
I just won't ever believe that man. Until they find out that all Football players are on steroids I just won't believe it. Because it's just so detrimental to their health. I mean it makes their bones brittle as hell, and causes so many different health problems. Which is why I don't think you're really right, because I guess Junior Seau takes steroids but he's been playing for like 15 years and up, believe me if he took steroids he wouldn't be able to do that. He wouldn't have had such a long career.

Strahan, he's been in the league for 15 years as well, again, the effects that steroids have on you wouldn't allow you to do that. I just don't really think that you understand that after the season ends they work, they work out, they work on speed, they work on technique, they work on being physical freaks, THAT IS THEIR JOB. Okay get that through that head of yours.
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I just won't ever believe that man. Until they find out that all Football players are on steroids I just won't believe it. Because it's just so detrimental to their health. I mean it makes their bones brittle as hell, and causes so many different health problems. Which is why I don't think you're really right, because I guess Junior Seau takes steroids but he's been playing for like 15 years and up, believe me if he took steroids he wouldn't be able to do that. He wouldn't have had such a long career.

Strahan, he's been in the league for 15 years as well, again, the effects that steroids have on you wouldn't allow you to do that. I just don't really think that you understand that after the season ends they work, they work out, they work on speed, they work on technique, they work on being physical freaks, THAT IS THEIR JOB. Okay get that through that head of yours.
lol you tell me to believe you but what authority do you have. I understand their lives are football and everything they do is to become bigger, faster, and stronger. Second I understand the health problems of taking steroids, but at the same time people *caugh* Jose Canseco have been taking steroids for probably 20 years and haven't shown those signs.
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