Footbalmaster

I do to but what I think and BB thinks are two completely different things.

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The-Hammer

Nah, they need a LB. All they got now is Adalious Thomas (who from the sounds of it is the prototype of this guy) Bruschi (I heard he was going to be a situational player) Vrabel who's only got like 2 years left. We need a LB NOW. And another thing, this guy is versatile, he can play end and LB, not only that but he's a freak. BB likes versatile players, I think we cna have this guy.

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gruntbygod

That was my point, its much harder today to find 3-4 guys then it was when Pittsburge was drafting Joey Porters in round 4 because they were the only team running a 3-4.

He is nothing like Thomas. Gholeston is a pure edge rusher closer to the Ware/Merriman mold. I dont think he is as good a prospect as either, I dont think he's got Merrimans power and bull rush ability or Ware's speed and versitility, but he is that type of player. Thomas is more a swing OLB/ILB guy. Not a knock on Thomas, by any means, they are just completely different players

The-Hammer

Well what I'm saying is, I heard this guy is ridiculous, he has amazing speed, he's strong and he's massive like Adalious Thomas. Another thing, I hear he's versatile, like Thomas. I haven't seen him play much but it sounds liek they were more or less both the same type of player.

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gruntbygod

He's versitle, but in the same way Merriman and Ware are. he can play DE in a 4-3 and OLB in a 3-4, mabey even 4-3 OLB like Ware. He doesnt have the same game as Thomas. Thomas is much more a LBer than a passrusher and Gholston is much more a pass rusher than a LB

The-Hammer

That's true, but I think Thomas is more suited to the outside. He's a good all aroung LB, but he totaly owns at OLB. But if we do get Gholston, I guess it would be to replace Vrabel soon.

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Professor

grunt, you have got be kidding me, I have read some articles making a case for Gholston as a better prospect than Long as Long has been coached his whole life and is a top player, but gholston's ceiling is so much higher. Dorsey's stock has been slipping and I will go as far as giving a 100% on Oakland taking either Chris Long or Gholston as gholston could even be picked by the Rams. I really honestly don't think the Raiders would draft mcfadden with 7 backs on the team right now. Ellis is not ahead of gholston. They Raiders have built up their secondary in order to blitz more and try to pressure the QB more frequently. I think Long or Gholston would give them what they are looking for

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You dont need a DE to blitz, and they have a pretty good pass rusher already in Burgess. Gholston's cieling may or may not be higher than Long's, but Long is better, lain and simple. Plus long has the ability to play DT in a 4-3, DE in a 4-3, DE in a 3-4, and OLB in a 3-4. Golston can play too. There is absoluty no way Gholston is a better prospect then Long. If Davis picks Gholston over Long, then thats officially it. But that point is moot as DT is much bigger need than DE. This is a team that struggles with the run and needs to fortifie the middle before anything else. They have Kelly and then a gaping hole at DT. I dont buy Dorsey slipping on bit, he is sliping in alot of mocks that mean absolutly nothing. He is probobly the second best player in the draft (after Long). Eliss is the consolation prize if Dorsey is gone. IMO the Raiders would be dumb to take an edge rusher who does little to help there real issue of run D

Professor

but that's why they payed kelly the big bucks. It's moot because there is almost no chance that long will be there. Which leaves Dorsey, Ellis, or Gholston. Gholston is the most likely choice of those 3. I just can't see the Raiders locking up all that money in DT with Kelly and Dorsey. I can see the Raiders trading down as an option if both Long and Gholston are gone.

After burgess and richardson, do they even have a DE on the roster? DE is a huge need and moreso than DT.

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Look at teams like Minnisiota and Jacksonville, those teams are impossible to run on becacause the buth have/had a dominant DT set. They have nothing at DT other than Kelly. If Davis was worried about money then McFadden wouldnt even be up for discussion, but yet he is still very much a posibility. Im not saying they will draft anyone, Im saying they would be dumb to pass on Dorsey (who is a supirior prospect) for Gholston