Thanks to Belichick, Pats will be forever known as cheats
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Here is what Bill Belichick has done: He has placed New England Patriots fans on the defensive for the rest of their lives. He has been exposed as being monumentally disingenuous at best and utterly duplicitous at worst. There can no longer be any doubt that he engaged in a practice he knew was against the rules. The big question we cannot answer is how important it all was, really. Did his illegal practice of taping opponents' defensive signals aid his team's chances of victory in certain games by 20 percent? Ten percent? Three percent? One-10th of 1 percent? Not at all? No one will ever know. Right now, it doesn't matter wrote Boston Globe columnist Bob Ryan.
It doesn't matter, because the only thing that does matter now is the image of the New England Patriots. The sports community now associates the Patriots with cheating. The three Super Bowl championships are, and forever will be, under suspicion. The thought will never go away. Let Mike Martz, coach of the vanquished Rams in the 2002 Super Bowl, absolve the Patriots all he wants. A year from now, five years from now, 50 years from now, who will know or remember what Mike Martz said? The Patriots have been irrevocably stained. They will be, in the eyes of many, the reverse Black Sox. They will be the team that broke the rules. Their three Super Bowls will be regarded as ill-gotten gain.
And Bill Belichick still hasn't fessed up. Bob Kraft should be livid. How could anyone not feel sorry for Bob Kraft? He hired a man he believed to be a superior coach, and his judgment appeared to be vindicated with three Super Bowls in four years. Kraft had presided over a phenomenal transformation, assuming control of the team when it was a distant fourth in the affections of local professional sports fans and seeing it grow to a point where his team was a strong 1-A to the mighty Boston Red Sox.
Damn right, and I still want to know if our guys got cheated
I wouldent say forever because eventually the belichek era will end. The patriots of this century will be known as cheats. Belichek cheated some players dident even know about it.
Well I'm going to sound like a homer but... what the hell? Everyone does it. It's no justification, but don't sound as if he did something never done before. He stole signals, which EVERYONE DOES. Like I said, it's not the most clean way, but that's the way life is.
Second, how much can they know of the signals... All of them? I doubt it. Let's say 1/10. If they know 1/10, then obivously that helps em out, but they still got to execute. And even then, they won't be 100% sure it's the right play.
Third, it may work for a game. But 3 superbowls? Please. Coaches mix things up every week, including signals. i doubt knowing a few signals led them to 3 sb wins.
Well I'm going to sound like a homer but... what the hell? Everyone does it. It's no justification, but don't sound as if he did something never done before. He stole signals, which EVERYONE DOES. Like I said, it's not the most clean way, but that's the way life is.
Second, how much can they know of the signals... All of them? I doubt it. Let's say 1/10. If they know 1/10, then obivously that helps em out, but they still got to execute. And even then, they won't be 100% sure it's the right play.
Third, it may work for a game. But 3 superbowls? Please. Coaches mix things up every week, including signals. i doubt knowing a few signals led them to 3 sb wins.
but if that 1/10 is a crucial 3rd down when the games on the line i think thats a huge advantage...most everyone feels that the Pats have gotten some lucky breaks/calls over the years, maybe you can attribute it to the 1/10 chance they have of knowing a call, maybe not...who knows...
but if that 1/10 is a crucial 3rd down when the games on the line i think thats a huge advantage...most everyone feels that the Pats have gotten some lucky breaks/calls over the years, maybe you can attribute it to the 1/10 chance they have of knowing a call, maybe not...who knows...
Well yeah, but 1/10, which even then, a little diffrence in a signal completly changes a play, is still quite a bit, but what are the chances it will be on a third down?
And yeah, we've had our share of good breaks, but don't make it sound like we havne't had a few calls go against us in recent years. Actually a lot of the close calls have gone against us in the past few years. But that doesn't matter, it's always a 50/50 chance with those things.
All I'm going to say is this you can discredit anything they did if you can prove they cheated this year, after the Jets incident.
nobody is talking about this year, after the Spygate incident. the proof that the Pats cheated got destroyed, you know that, the whole world knows that. but answer me this, why destroy all of the evidence if nothing was on those tapes? something had to be on those tapes in order for Goodell to "protect" the intergrity of the game. until someone comes out and says exactly what was on those tapes the Pats will always be known as cheaters in the NFL community. you can sit here and deny, deny, deny all you want to but you cant explain why those tapes got destroyed.
Well yeah, but 1/10, which even then, a little diffrence in a signal completly changes a play, is still quite a bit, but what are the chances it will be on a third down?
And yeah, we've had our share of good breaks, but don't make it sound like we havne't had a few calls go against us in recent years. Actually a lot of the close calls have gone against us in the past few years. But that doesn't matter, it's always a 50/50 chance with those things.
it doesnt matter what down it is, but if it has direct impact on the outcome of the game thats 1 huge advantage no matter how you try to downplay it. if the Pats used it on 1st down to get a sack and force the opponent into a 2nd and 20 in the 4th down by 3 then its a big advantage especially in a close game. 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th it doesnt matter, a big play using such an advantage is enough to change the momentum and outcome of a game.
it doesnt matter what down it is, but if it has direct impact on the outcome of the game thats 1 huge advantage no matter how you try to downplay it. if the Pats used it on 1st down to get a sack and force the opponent into a 2nd and 20 in the 4th down by 3 then its a big advantage especially in a close game. 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th it doesnt matter, a big play using such an advantage is enough to change the momentum and outcome of a game.
Well yeah, but coaches change signals all the time, to prevent this sort of thing. So I mean, how accurate were the signals anyways?
Thanks to Belichick, Pats will be forever known as cheats
Thanks to Belichick, Pats will be forever known as cheats
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