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Old 09-25-2007, 01:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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As I have said for most of last year and this year, I hate Sean Payton, so if this team goes aboutn 4-12 or so, and have a chance to draft Glen Dorsey. I think it might be time to fire Payton. He has no FREAKING CLUE what he is doing, and he would probably just draft Jake Long or some receiver and force me to start shouting vulgarities. Anyone else have thoughts?
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No it's too early to give up yet. Saints could win the nex 5-6 games and be 5-3 or a very resectable 6-3 half way through the season.

Heck the Dolphins won 5-6 in a row last season after starting out sluggish.
But then fell at the gate...
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First he was a genius and now you guys are ready to fire him/
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First he was a genius and now you guys are ready to fire him/
I have always hated him, he has no idea how to draft and no clue what this running the ball thing is...
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I would not give up on him just yet. He is stuck with a defense that does not seem to be able to stop anyone. That being said I think Peyton has a great mind for offense I just think that some times he seems to out think himself and might need someone to hold him back a little and make sure he does the basic things. BP held him back too much so it needs to be some where between what he had in Dallas and total controll. He might turn out like Norv Turner great OC bad HC.
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I would not give up on him just yet. He is stuck with a defense that does not seem to be able to stop anyone. That being said I think Peyton has a great mind for offense I just think that some times he seems to out think himself and might need someone to hold him back a little and make sure he does the basic things. BP held him back too much so it needs to be some where between what he had in Dallas and total controll. He might turn out like Norv Turner great OC bad HC.
Unfortunately he seems to me to be more like a Gruden, thinks he is a genius, and now that people have called him one it went to his head. Unless he finds an OC who is able to take the playcalling and force a running game, this team has no chance with so little talent on defense. You can't hide a defense with no playmaking when they are on the field 80% of the game.
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Unfortunately he seems to me to be more like a Gruden, thinks he is a genius, and now that people have called him one it went to his head. Unless he finds an OC who is able to take the playcalling and force a running game, this team has no chance with so little talent on defense. You can't hide a defense with no playmaking when they are on the field 80% of the game.
That is true the bad think with out Duece the Saints do not have any real inside runners. This bye week will decide alot about this season, if they can come out with a game plan fit what they have on offense and some way to slow down the other team then they have a chance to turn the season around. If they loose to the Panther 31-10 the season is over.
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I would not give up on him just yet. He is stuck with a defense that does not seem to be able to stop anyone. That being said I think Peyton has a great mind for offense I just think that some times he seems to out think himself and might need someone to hold him back a little and make sure he does the basic things. BP held him back too much so it needs to be some where between what he had in Dallas and total controll. He might turn out like Norv Turner great OC bad HC.

He built that terrible defense, he can be an OC's assistant, the guy is a moron and doesn't know how to use his weapons, Also I hate to say I told you so, only one year late, Drew Brees is terrible and he has no confidence and that dinky 5 yard passing crap is a sign to me that he isn't the same
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He built that terrible defense, he can be an OC's assistant, the guy is a moron and doesn't know how to use his weapons, Also I hate to say I told you so, only one year late, Drew Brees is terrible and he has no confidence and that dinky 5 yard passing crap is a sign to me that he isn't the same
Maybe he was like that kid from Rookie of the Year where the arm injury was the only thing making him good last year...lol
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He built that terrible defense, he can be an OC's assistant, the guy is a moron and doesn't know how to use his weapons, Also I hate to say I told you so, only one year late, Drew Brees is terrible and he has no confidence and that dinky 5 yard passing crap is a sign to me that he isn't the same
He did not build that defense most of the players were there before he was hired. He did rebuild the LB while not great it is much better than what it was before. Most Saints fans I know say he has spent too much towards the offense and hardly any thing towards the defense. I do not know if he was thinking he could be like the Colts or Bengals have been but it has not worked out.

Brees is over rated he is not one of the best QBs in the NFL or the NFC for that matter. He is good at running the offense as long as it not trying to come from behind. Peyton needs an OC he can come up with some good plays but tends to get too cute, that is the reason he lost the job with the Giants and in Dallas BP kept a very tight grip on the controlls. I do think he is trying to go the well too many times in the draft by always going after some small school player that no one has heard of before.
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