View Poll Results: which is more important???
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quality(difference makers and skill positions)
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quantity(depth)
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12-23-2004, 09:27 AM
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ok i ask this question because the bears will most likely have a top 10 pick in the upcoming draft.
should the bears stand pat and take a high quality player or trade down to get more more good (but maybe niot great) players.
IMHO depth is VERY important in todays NFL.it is not just about star power but about being able to just plug and play guys when the starters go down.
it is always nice to have a guy with the ability of an owens or a moss,but at what expense???
i look at the a team like the Patriots who only have a couple of stars but have quality football players up and down their roster so that a few injuries don't decimate their team.
IMHO the bears need to trade down and get as many 1st day picks as they can and get some depth(mainly on the O-line).we have stars already on defense but we need a lot more depth on offense.
i truly believe that skill positions are the last piece to the puzzle.get yourself in a good situation on offense and then when all you need is a WR then you make the deal to get one.similar to philadelphia they were simply missing a piece to the puzzle and TO was that piece(although maybe for what they gave up for him as well as what they pay him they maybe could have upgraded the WR psition across the board and not just one spot so they wouldnt have been so dependant on one guy.
football is a violent game and even the great players will get hurt so IMHO the best way to go is to not put all your eggs in one basket but maybe just one ogf those eggs will become a golden egg.
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12-23-2004, 09:50 PM
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12-23-2004, 09:56 PM
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I think that if you get a few star players to build around, THAN you can go after quantity.
look at Philly. they established there franchise players by drafting Tra thomas, Corey simon, Brian Dawkins, and Donovan Mcnabb. than they built on them. the reason Owens wanted to come to Philly is because he saw they already had all the pieces except him.
If Chicago can get a few franchise players to build around, than they can go after depth. If it were me i would want a franchise QB (grossman), OT (???), DB (???), and DL (Harris). IMO, the Bears should either grab the top OT from Virginia or from Auburn, Mcneil. Or they should try to grab Rolle. than, once these players begin to mature and the team finds sucess, than the FA will come.
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12-24-2004, 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by ILOVEFOOTBALL@Dec 23 2004, 09:56 PM
I think that if you get a few star players to build around, THAN you can go after quantity.
look at Philly. they established there franchise players by drafting Tra thomas, Corey simon, Brian Dawkins, and Donovan Mcnabb. than they built on them. the reason Owens wanted to come to Philly is because he saw they already had all the pieces except him.
If Chicago can get a few franchise players to build around, than they can go after depth. If it were me i would want a franchise QB (grossman), OT (???), DB (???), and DL (Harris). IMO, the Bears should either grab the top OT from Virginia or from Auburn, Mcneil. Or they should try to grab Rolle. than, once these players begin to mature and the team finds sucess, than the FA will come.
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The Bears should probably pick up a S if they can because of the lack of depth there. OLB depth is also a concern. The Bears don't need a CB and won't draft Rolle. They've got Peanut Tillman, Jerry Azumah and Nathan Vasher to be at the CB spots. The QB situation is also a little scary, but O-Line and TE are more of a concern.
Whatever, the deal is the Bears will draft WR Mike Williams in the 1st round. The Bears desperately need him. Badly. I think Braylon Edwards is too big of a risk. We'll see what he does in the Rose Bowl! And Mark Clayton's a short little ****.
Or OTs Brick or Jammal Brown. Or Marcus McNeill.
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12-24-2004, 03:51 AM
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Id definatly agree that yall need a threat at WR. More importantly though I think it has to be a "complete" wide receiver.. someone like Hines Ward who aint afraid to do some run blocking. If Mike Williams is that then id say he would be a perfect pickup for yall.
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12-24-2004, 05:58 AM
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I think the bears are banking on columbo coming back after this offseason. I ready today that Q Mitchell was sharing snaps with tait at RT.. perhaps he'd be better off on that side, because he's a terrible LT.
It's hard to say because there are two areas of our offense that are undoubtedly horrible, WR and LT. Out of our group of receivers, Bobby Wade has really been the only "consistant" one we have. Justin Gage will "probably" be good when rex is back, but like Grid said an all around receiver would be perfect. I'd like to see what Mouse thinks, in all his drafts he has the bears talking a LT with their 1st pick.
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12-24-2004, 07:14 AM
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my concern is say we do draft mike williams(a mistake IMHO).what if he gets hurt???then we are no better off??
why not trade that high pick and maybe get a LT and another WR in the first round instead of just one or the other.
i am not sold on williams.he has speed issues as well as playing in the pac 10 that isnt really known for its defense.then throw in he hasnt played football all year and my concerns get worse.he also is not a prototypical fit for the bears offense.
williams is not a superhuman WR.he is a good WR but i fail to see why he should have this no bust factor around him any more than any other WR in the this draft.
WR's are a big gamble for a first round pick and right now teh bears are not in a position to be gambling their picks away.
personally i hope angelo trades down and gets 2 O-linemen in the first and addresses WR via free agency.
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12-24-2004, 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by sportsden13@Dec 24 2004, 07:14 AM
my concern is say we do draft mike williams(a mistake IMHO).what if he gets hurt???then we are no better off??
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what if ANY 1st round pick gets hurt? It's the same scenario.
I'd have to assume that you didn't watch Williams play at USC...had he been eligible he would've been the FIRST WR taken in 2004.
We HAVE depth...we can't score or get 1st downs on offense because we've got a BUCNCH of 3rd - 5th rounders on offense trying to make plays...
We've got Grossman, now we've got to fill the cupboards with the ingredients. The defense is set until 2006 and we should be fine there.
Injuries are a part of the game, we need CORE players / game breakers that we can build around to fill that roster up. The quality of your depth is contingient on the qualty of coaches you have.
Attempting to build the Oline year after year only does what? What and who are they blocking for? Third tier talent? 2nd or 3rd rounders can build up those lines... We attempted to build the line with Colombo, what happened? He got injured...same scenario as above.
I think we could take anyone of the following as high as we'll be drafting and not "go wrong"
Mike Williams
Alex Barron
Mark Clayton
Jammal Brown
Antrel Rolle
Derrick Johnson
later rounds I'd like to see.....that could 'help';
T.A. McLendon
Skyler Green
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12-24-2004, 09:47 AM
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what the hell is he talking about we don't have a corner...i'd say we have one of the better defensive backfields around...
i wanna see a WR drafted, as well as a TE picked up...and an LT, 2 Gs...defense can wait in my opinion.
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12-24-2004, 10:05 AM
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look at Detroit, even though they're struggling because of Harrington (?), where would they be this year if they didn't get Kevin Jones and Roy Williams?!
Would the Bears still be 7 point dogs against the Lions had they attempted to solidy their line?
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