LB instructor

Amen Potato. People that dont think from a defensive stand point dont realize how easy it is for a defense to game plan Vick. Fact) most QB's have an avg of 6-7 yds per ATTEMPT not completion. The best runningback in the league will only avg high 4 yds per carry. If you were to measure yd per comp it would be around 9-12. When you have a QB who likes to run and thats how you design your offense, 3 man front 4 line backers 2 corners 2 safeties. You know how many guys that sets up to stop the run? 8 Now if you fall behind by 10 or more in the 4th its easy pickins for a decent DB and a poor passing QB.

superstar

i think they should have taken smith. if they took smith and drafted any other qb with an arm they would have a passing game and a running game

Fielding

Ugh, please. In five years as a football queterback Drew Bress has only mustered ONE good year. He played so badly in three seasons that they went out and drafted Eli Manning (only to trade him for Philip Rivers) it was only then that he did good as a starter. I have no doubt in my mind that had it not been for Rivers, Brees would still be an underachieving QB.

Today, perhaps Brees is the better QB, but I belive they get along just fine with out BLT (Baby LT), and it still doesnt diminsh what Vick has done for the Falcons. He still has issues as a passer, but there is no denying that feet do come in handy every once in a while.

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gruntbygod

Are you serious? Brees has only had 1 bad year, his third year in the league. Yes Vick has a godd won/loss record as a QB, but what has he done with it? nothing, how much longer will it last? With the Panthers, and Bucs in that division not long. Vicks best year was his first in the league, what does that say. He hasnt gotten any better! Are you seriously saying that the Falcons are better of with Vick than they would be with LT and Brees?

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LB instructor

Vick has no shot of getting better. Does anyone ever hear scouts or coaches talking about how he is working in the off season to be a better passer. Here is reality folks, the best and I mean the best running backs in the league at most have 10 productive years and that is at most. These guys are built for the position and are big strong guys conditioned to take a pounding. Vick is already showing signs that the hits are taking a toll. 2 yrs at most for him and the magic is gone and he will have to rely on his passing ability. Thats when everyone will flip to Vick haters. We live in a time of change and fans dont stand for mediocrity long.

Potatoking

i disagree, look at the lions

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Fielding

Some of you say that the falcons would have been better off if they had drafted Brees instead of Vick. I beg to differ so I took the liberty of comparing Vick and Brees total offensive output (passing and rushing), check this out:

Out of Brees 1,809 carreer passing attemps, 736 of them have either been incompletions or interceptions. That makes 40.7% of what I call the Pass Faliure Percentlie

Out of Vicks 1,342 carreer pass attemps, 654 of them have either been incomplettions or interceptions. Representing 48.8% of the PFP.

Brees has amassed 12,714 all poupose yards while vick has tallied 11,851

Brees has scored 504 point (passing TD's and Rushing TD's) and vick has scored 420.

Now perhaps the most important statistic for a QB Bress has thrown 53 INT's and lost 10 fumbles. while vick has thrown 39 INts and lost 25 fumbles. Let say for a minute that had they not turned the ball over those drives would have resluted in points. Brees has lost 378 possible points while vick lost 384.

Brees has started 59 contests and won 30 of them, Vick has started 57 contest and won 38 of them with one tie.

The numbers say that Brees is a slightly more productice QB, but not by a large margin. However, Brees's carreer record as a starter is 30-29 with one post season berth while Vick is 38-18-1 including two post season runs. What am i getting at? Well, while Brees's does have a better passer rating and more carreer TD's the Falcons have been winning more games than the Chargers and that is with Vick at the helm.

One factor that is a bit hard to measure is Market Value. Vick is way more popular with the fans than Brees. His Jersey and NFl apperell has outsold that of Brees's and Tomlinson's. Since they drafted Vick in 2001 they have sold out season tickets for the last 4 seasons. The NFL is a bussiness, sure winning is nice but making the money is, in my opinion, just as important. If not, more so.

On a side note, there should be no qualms about the Falcons passing on BLT since thier rushing game has been top notch and Vick is an intrical part of that.

Is Vick mediocre? Maybe, but you sure cant call him a bust.

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gruntbygod

Where will Vicks marketability be when his legs wares down and his game is gone? Who will pack the GD to see him then? Where will the marketabilty be when they cant compete with the Panthers or Buccs, who are up for the long haul? What happens to Atlantas run game when Dunns age catches up to him. Vick is a mirage, yes he has a good winning percentage, but the league has figured him out. He hasnt gotten better, his stats have declined since his second year. Brees is by no means a god, but I would take Brees and Tomilson over Vick, Dunn, and Ducket any day of the week, then I would invent a new day and take them that day too. Think about this as far as marketability, I honestly believe LT will catch Emmitt ( and I am Cowboy fan) LT puts the time, and money ( personal trainers) into his body that will carry him farther than other backs. Who will have more marketability if he does pass Emmitt. Thats a prestious milestone ( footballs home run record) that will market that franchise in and of itself, long after Vick is just another Kordell Stewart clone

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Potatoking

i would like you to accumlate the stats of the past two years

what about the cap hit his contract takes??
Brees is cheaper & a better QB

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gruntbygod

10 years 130 mil

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