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TitanFan · 08-18-2006, 01:24 PM

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2002 GAME ANALYSIS

Iowa...Facing the national championship contenders, Charlie torched the Hawkeyes secondary for 230 yards and a pair of scores, including a 31-yarder to Jamie Goodwin, hitting on 21 of 29 attempts (72.4%).

Maryland...Completed 15 of 25 passes for 216 yards and a 65-yard touchdown to Nick Sparks.

Central Michigan...Despite fracturing his right thumb, he still gained 246 yards on 22 of 32 passes, including a 13-yard score to Nick Fortener, and rushed 7 times for 27 yards.

Virginia...With his hand heavily taped, Charlie hit on 27 of 47 passes for 336 yards and a 20-yard touchdown to Mike Brake, and eluded the Cavalier defensive front wall to run for scores of 1 & 5 yards.

Miami (Oh.)...Threw for 348 yards on 29 of 46 passing, including touchdowns of 9 yards to Miquel Irvin and 22 yards to Matt Cherry.

Eastern Michigan...Still hurting from his thumb fracture, he put on another impressive performance as he collected 344 yards on 29 of 37 attempts (78.4%) with 1- and 16-yard touchdowns to Fortener while also carrying 8 times for 30 yards and a 17-yard score.

Liberty...Completed 70.3% of his passes (19 of 27) for 186 yards and a pair of scores, adding 45 yards on 7 carries with a 9-yard touchdown.

Central Florida...Followed with 29 of 41 passing (70.7%) for 278 yards, including a tipped pass back to him that Charlie caught for a 4-yard loss. He also scored on a 16-yard run.

Marshall...Had a 28-yard touchdown toss to Mike Brake and a 26-yard scoring run.

Ohio University...Found Morris Ellington with a 6-yard touchdown pass as he hit on 21 of 34 passes for 188 yards.

Kent State...Closed out the season with 15 of 21 attempts for 176 yards and a pair of scores, adding another touchdown on a 3-yard quarterback draw.

2001 SEASON

Winner of the team's Outstanding Freshman Award, as he rewrote two school season-records in his first year with the team...Completed 170 of 289 passes (then-school record 58.8%) for 2,053 yards and nine touchdowns, topping the old mark of 148 completions by James Washington in 2000...Added three scores on 62 carries, gaining 22 yards (0.4 avg).

2001 GAME ANALYSIS

Ohio University...Made his college debut, coming off the bench to connect on 13 of 16 passes (81.3%) for 145 yards...His pass completion percentage was the highest of any Division 1-A quarterback in his debut.

Ohio State...Earned his first career start, responding with 15 of 31 passes for 134 yards and a 15-yard score to Jake Schifino.

Purdue...Threw a 2-yard touchdown pass to fullback Matt Zuercher, finishing with 132 yards on 14 of 21 passes.

Western Michigan...Ran for a 4-yard score.

Miami (Oh.)...After several games of simplifying the play book, the coaches "unleashed" Charlie, who proceeded to complete 21 of 31 attempts (67.7%) for 309 yards, including touchdown strikes of 37 and 72 yards to Matt Cherry.

Marshall...Hit on 24 of 37 chances for 272 yards and a 5-yard score to Mike Brake, adding another touchdown on a 13-yard run.

Central Florida...Hurled a 66-yard touchdown bomb to Schifino.

Buffalo...Followed with a 17-yard scoring pass to Cherry, completing 13 of 20 tosses for 155 yards and also rushed for 43 yards and a 4-yard touchdown on 7 carries.

Eastern Michigan...Served notice to the rest of the nation in the season finale, guiding the team to an exciting 65-62 triple-overtime victory, the highest scoring game in conference history...Amassed 313 yards on 21 of 33 passing with touchdowns of 11 yards to Schifino and 13 yards to Junior McCray, engineering eleven scoring drives as he finished with 327 of the team's 532 yards in total offense.

2000 SEASON
Redshirted as a freshman.

INJURY REPORT

Played with a fractured right thumb in the final nine games of the 2002 season after suffering the injury vs. Central Michigan...Suffered a right hip pointer in the 2003 Connecticut game that would keep him on the bench (played later) vs. Marshall...Re-injured the hip vs. Central Michigan, but played with the injury in the 2003 season finale vs. Ohio University.

CAMPUS AGILITY TESTS

Campus: 4.64 in the 40-yard dash...330-pound bench press...33 ½-inch arm length...9 ¾-inch hands.

HIGH SCHOOL

Attended Willard (Oh.) High, playing football for coach Chris Hawkins...Finished his career as the holder of 17 of the school's all-time records, including pass completions (482), passing yards (6,209) and touchdown passes (54)...Named Northwest District Player of the Year as he led Willard to a 10-2 mark and a state playoff berth as a senior...Also earned first-team All-Ohio Division III honors.

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DJ Boyer · 08-18-2006, 01:24 PM

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PALMER DEFINITELY. I'M CLOSE WITH MANNING AND ROTH, BUT I'D HAVE TO GIVE QUINN A SLIGHT EDGE. I CAN'T RATE LEFTWICH OVER HIM. SCHAUB'S A GOOD QB, BUT I WOULDN'T PUT HIM UP THERE QUITE THAT HIGH.

WHERE'D YOU HAVE RIVERS AT AGAIN?
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Those were my rankings on them coming out of school.....

Leftwich
Palmer
Schaub
Rivers

TitanFan · 08-18-2006, 01:26 PM

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//no.

///Kira from Bhudapest in Amsterdam was game though.
////sadly, that was all for my foreign sampling. the rest were domestic *****es abroad.
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*****'s *****

Nixon · 08-18-2006, 02:26 PM

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*****'s *****

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I want to sample some from every country. I've got the USA, Cuba, Haiti, Bahamas, Colombia, Venezuela, Peru, Puerto Rico, Spain, France, Czech Republic, UK, and now Hungary down.

I think the African nations will give me the most trouble, I'll have to double wrap those too...

DJ Boyer · 08-18-2006, 02:32 PM

These are the rankings of top 10 quarterbacks every year (I have completed them from 1999 to the present....2000 was the first year I did any work for NFL teams). These rankings were made before the draft. You can see how I stacked up.....some good picks some bad picks.

Rankings from years past….(top 10’s)

2006

1. Jay Cutler Vanderbilt
2. Matt Leinart USC
3. Brodie Croyle Alabama
4. Omar Jacobs Bowling Green
5. Kellen Clemons Oregon
6. Vince Young Texas
7. Charlie Whitehurst Clemson
8. Erik Meyer Eastern Washington
9. Reggie McNeal Texas A&M
10.Ingle Martin Furman

2005

1. Alex Smith Utah
2. Andrew Walters Arizona State
3. Gino Guidugli Cincinnati
4. Charlie Frye Akron
5. Jason Campbell Auburn
6. Dan Orlovsky Connecticut
7. Aaron Rodgers California
8. Adrian McPherson Indiana Firebirds AFL
9. Kyle Orton Purdue
10. Stephan Lefors Louisville

2004

1. Ben Roethlisberger Miami (Ohio)
2. Eli Manning Mississippi
3. Matt Schaub Virginia
4. Philip Rivers NC State
5. Cody Pickett Washington
6. Luke McCown Louisiana Tech
7. John Navarre Michigan
8. Jeff Smoker Michigan State
9. Jared Lorenzen Kentucky
10.Casey Bramlet Wyoming

2003

1. Byron Leftwich Marshall
2. Carson Palmer USC
3. Dave Ragone Louisville
4. Kyle Boller California
5. Tony Romo Eastern Illinois
6. Chris Simms Texas
7. Drew Henson Michigan
8. Rex Grossman Florida
9. Seneca Wallace Iowa State
10.Ken Dorsey Miami (Fla.)

2002

1. David Carr Fresno State
2. Joey Harrington Oregon
3. Patrick Ramsey Tulane
4. Rohan Davey LSU
5. Dusty Bonner Valdosta State
6. Kurt Kittner Illinois
7. Josh McCown Sam Houston State
8. David Garrard East Carolina
9. Jeff Kelly Southern Mississippi
10.Craig Nall Northwestern State

2001

1. Drew Brees Purdue
2. Michael Vick Virginia Tech
3. Marquis Tuiasosopo Washington
4. Chris Weinke Florida State
5. Tim Hasselbeck Boston College
6. Ben Leard Auburn
7. Sage Rosenfels Iowa State
8. Jesse Palmer Florida
9. Josh Booty LSU
10.David Rivers Western Carolina

2000

1. Chad Pennington Marshall
2. Marc Bulger West Virginia
3. Tim Rattay Louisiana Tech
4. Chris Redman Louisville
5. Billy Volek Fresno State
6. Joe Hamilton Georgia Tech
7. Todd Husak Stanford
8. Giovanni Carmazzi Hofstra
9. Tom Brady Michigan
10.Phil Stambaugh Lehigh

1999

1. Daunte Culpepper Central Florida
2. Tim Couch Kentucky
3. Shaun King Tulane
4. Joe Germaine Ohio State
5. Akili Smith Oregon
6. Donovan McNabb Syracuse
7. Aaron Brooks Virginia
8. Brock Huard Washington
9. Brian Kuklick Wake Forest
10.Cade McNown UCLA

Nixon · 08-18-2006, 02:39 PM

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2006
4. Omar Jacobs Bowling Green
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wow, way too high. He stinks.

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2005

1. Alex Smith Utah
4. Charlie Frye Akron
6. Dan Orlovsky Connecticut
7. Aaron Rodgers California
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Put Alex Smith at the bottom of this ranking and you're in business

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2004

9.Jared Lorenzen Kentucky
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How could you doubt the hefty lefty?!!

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2003

1.Byron Leftwich Marshall
2.Carson Palmer USC
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Ouch.

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2000

1. Chad Pennington Marshall
2. Marc Bulger West Virginia
3. Tim Rattay Louisiana Tech
4. Chris Redman Louisville
5. Billy Volek Fresno State
6. Joe Hamilton Georgia Tech
7. Todd Husak Stanford
8. Giovanni Carmazzi Hofstra
9. Tom Brady Michigan
10.Phil Stambaugh Lehigh
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That one's pretty ****in ugly, DJ.

DJ Boyer · 08-18-2006, 02:55 PM

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wow, way too high. He stinks.
Put Alex Smith at the bottom of this ranking and you're in business
How could you doubt the hefty lefty?!!
Ouch.
That one's pretty ****in ugly, DJ.

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Hey...some good some bad...you won't find many who will at least own up to their miscues.....you also have to take into consideration others rankings....

Although a few of these comments i disagree with.....

Alex Smith will be OK.....I don't think Omar Jacobs stinks..

Leftwich over Palmer...yeah.....ouch

2000 really that ugly??...how many people had Marc Bulger a top 5 QB...Billy Volek as well..even Tom Brady istop 10 (then again it looks funny with him in between Giovanni Carmazzi and Phil Stambaugh)...look at the rest of the class...not to mention Culpepper above Couch in 1999......Big Ben in 04 with Schaub 3rd...I think that was a good call.....

But there are even more bad ones.....Dusty Bonner in 02...although i have Josh McCown and Craig Nall from small schools in there but Bonner ahead of both of them...Dave Ragone 3rd in 03 looks awful.....hey win some lose some....

Also mark my words...Cutler #1 last year is gonna look good in a few years...as will Vince at #6.

Nixon · 08-18-2006, 03:00 PM

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Hey...some good some bad...you won't find many who will at least own up to their miscues.....you also have to take into consideration others rankings....

Although a few of these comments i disagree with.....

Alex Smith will be OK.....I don't think Omar Jacobs stinks..

Leftwich over Palmer...yeah.....ouch

2000 really that ugly??...how many people had Marc Bulger a top 5 QB...Billy Volek as well..even Tom Brady istop 10 (then again it looks funny with him in between Giovanni Carmazzi and Phil Stambaugh)...look at the rest of the class...not to mention Culpepper above Couch in 1999......Big Ben in 04 with Schaub 3rd...I think that was a good call.....

But there are even more bad ones.....Dusty Bonner in 02...although i have Josh McCown and Craig Nall from small schools in there but Bonner ahead of both of them...Dave Ragone 3rd in 03 looks awful.....hey win some lose some....

Also mark my words...Cutler #1 last year is gonna look good in a few years...as will Vince at #6.
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when I said ugly I was mostly referring to the class.

Jacobs has shown me nothing.

I still love you like a distant uncle.

TitanFan · 08-18-2006, 03:02 PM

I thought DJ did pretty well considering noone respect Brady back then. Just pleased to see he has Cutler at #1 like I did nearly all year. Was talking to my boy DC about him in September due to watching early Vandy midday starts out of boredom. Kid's gonna be a stud. I have Palmer over Leftwich although that could've been the homer in me. I still have that deep seam route hit vs Iowa in my hit which was when I decided he was gonna be a stud. Either way DJ's record backs up his hype.

DJ Boyer · 08-18-2006, 03:03 PM

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when I said ugly I was mostly referring to the class.

Jacobs has shown me nothing.

I still love you like a distant uncle.
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ahhh gotcha....yeah that is overall an ugly class........

I haven't seen enough of Jacobs in Pittsburgh....is he playing that poorly?

Ahh...I still love you to but why a distant uncle...thought we were closer than that what gives

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