imported_Lsuredskinman

Yes, Russell has a huge arm, great size and a flare for the dramatic, but he's terribly inaccurate and his lack of mobility and poise cost him against even remote pressure. All in all I think he's little more than a lot of potential right now and I don't think potential gets you picked in the first round. I'd be looking at Quinn and Smith long before I even think of Russell. At this point, I'd personally take Brohm and Stanton over him in this upcoming draft. If he doesn't step up and perform in some big SEC games this year, he might even slip below a guy like Jordan Palmer and maybe even Drew Tate.
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Are you even watching the games or are you just going off the pure stats? Russell did not perform badly in the game. 2 of the interceptions were off bumbled catches and the other one was a long pass that a lsu receiver misplayed. That isn't taking anything away from Florida, Lsu just didn't play well (I didn't even mention Lsu's 3 other turnovers on special teams). Also, I don't think you have ever watched a draft in your life if you don't think that potential gets you drafted in the first round. That is what the draft is all about.

No doubt alot will depend on the rest of the year and how it plays out. But please watch some of these guys play, which would be impossible for Brohm since he's injured (that'll really help his draft stock, since it's his second big injury in less than a year). Stanton hasn't been setting the world on fire this year either, actually he has been downright terrible in the games I have seen. I would be shocked if you have seen Jordan Palmer ever play in a game, since his team is almost never on tv.

Lastly, Russell doesn't lack mobility and he isn't inaccurate. He is over 60% in his career and is rarely sacked. He just chooses not to run, much like Smith this year.

DJ Boyer

Russell didn't play that bad against Florida and most of the INT's were not his fault...the fumble near the goal line was the most costly mistake he made the whole game.

Quinn and Brohm are miles ahead of any of the QB's available....Stanton is not in that group and Smith is not quite there. Another guy that is close that doesn't get a lot of attention is Tyler Palko. Last year was his first year in a brand new system and his stats were a little bit down. Now he is more comfortable...doesn't have a star to throw to and is having a terrific year. Palko deserves more pub because if he comes out right now he is probably a day 1 pick. Russell has the potential to be first day as does Jordan Palmer but they are not locks right now. The other guy who is moving up the charts and I like more and more and could be the most improved at the position...John Beck of BYU. Beck is the sleeper at this position...he has the potential to go very high and his decision making and poise have been tremendous....he is the fast riser at the position right now.

mouse

I STILL DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE EVER HAD STANTON SO HI. AND THE FUNNY THING IS AFTER HIM PLAYING PRETTY BADLY, SOME PEOPLE STILL HAVE HIM UP THERE.

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TitanFan

Not high on Derek Kinder DJ? I heard he was rising up boards for '08 real fast.

Mouse they're generally the ones who can't think for themselves and copy other people. Anyone who has Stanton as a 1st rounder has spent the last 3 weeks in a coma.

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I watched every single snap of the Florida v. LSU game and I do not guide myself solely by the numbers. Let's review the picks that Russell threw.

1) The long ball was thrown deep down the sideline to a WR that was clearly well covered while others were open for short to medium length gains. Blame the WR if you want, but that ball should not have gone there. This is an opinion that was stated by the announcers at the game and supported by the replays.

2) The pick that Nelson forced with a brutal hit on an LSU WR is not really Russell's fault, but he did lead his teammate into that traffic. He was doing that all day.

3) The final INT that is being explained away as a tipped ball should have been a TD that would have given LSU a little bit of hope late in the game. He missed a wide open WR who, while trying to make the play in spite of the terrible pass, deflected the ball into the arms of a Gator DB.

So, Russell was responsible for 2.5 INTs. And yes, he's not a statue, but he's certainly not a real threat with his legs. And he was inaccurate against Florida. His passes were rarely on the spot. Even the TD was almost dropped because he floated it short. You're the one leaning on numbers there to give him credit for a skill he does not possess.

The moral of the story is that Russell is not only not in contention to be the #1 QB taken in the upcoming draft, he's gonna have to play well in a big game this year if he wants to be a first rounder.

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RipTheJacker

Chad Henne will beat them all out and go #1

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imported_Lsuredskinman

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ejruiz @ Oct 9th ) [snapback]1737201[/snapback]</div>I don't know where to start. What skill is he lacking? If he is one of the top 3 to 5 QBs that sort of puts him in the mix to be the first. Quinn could be hurt. Brohm might come back for another year. Someone could get arrested or any number of other things could happen. Or Russell could outperform the others throughout the season and wow people at the combine. Either way it's not a stretch to put him in the arguement.

Your moral is flawed for a couple of reasons. First, Russell is going to play in about 5 big games this year (against top 25 teams). He has already performed well in one (Auburn) and not so well in the other (Florida). Secondly, I watched Jay Cutler stink it up in about 2 big games last year and it really didn't hurt his stock that much (He did have some good ones as well). So maybe performance isn't that big of a factor.

The only thing I'll say about the game, was that he didn't play anywhere near as well as he was capable of. But if a ball hits the receivers hands he should catch it, plain and simple.

imported_izlez

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RipTheJacker @ Oct 9th ) [snapback]1737231[/snapback]</div>

Hes not going 1st overall, but will be the 1st QB taken....If e goes into the draft

imported_ejruiz

Yes, I suppose anything can happen. Maybe no underclassmen QBs will declare for the draft (bye bye Brohm, Henne, etc.). Maybe the senior QBs that grade out ahead of him will get hurt or arrested (bye bye Quinn, Smith, etc.). Maybe Russell will play well against the good teams that remain on LSU's schedule. Maybe then he'll be the first QB taken in this next draft.

Look, I apologize for being so argumentative and possibly rude, but I just don't think that Russell really belongs in that conversation just yet. He's a fine pro QB prospect and he should lead LSU to a good finish this year (that team is really good) so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree for now and just wait and see.

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I bleed Sooner red

why are you apologizing? just another homer spouting his school has the best prospects at every position