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Ypu basically were by giving false stats, saying he should retire now etc. Blandas numbers were way worse, yet you posted them and said Favre should retire right now. Even though his TD-Int ratio is right around guys like Peyton Manning and Marino. You also said when you think Favre you think INT bc of his last few seasons, which infact were not that far above his career averages except for the season two years ago.

Oh and then the ridiculous commments of him being a bottom five qb, and the comments of the qbs youd take over Favre including a guy in Brad Johnson who got benched and might not start next year. S
1.)"when i think Favre i think int."...he is 4 ints. away from the record...that is not some misleading stat...that means he has thrown a ton of picks

2.)here is another stat you will call misleading:

NFL.com - NFL Stats

there are only 5 QBs in the NFL with a lower passer rating...

maybe that is an over-rated stat but it should still be an indicator to him that maybe it is time to call it quits

3.)if Farve has a comparable td to int ratio to that of Mannning and Mario then it is because he WAS very good...but right now you can not put his stats next to mannings...because they are not in the same league

4.)there are maybe 3 or 4 starting QBs that I wouldn't take over Farve at this piont in his career...maybe not Johnson, now that I look at Johnson's stats he is god awful as well...that is JMO...but you can't tell me he is going to be a top 10 QB next year...in fact I doubt he will be top 20...

5.) you act like 18 picks isn't that much

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Old 02-03-2007, 08:27 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I don't think that most cheese heads could possibly be happy about this...

I honestly believe that Farve is one of the worst starting QBs in the NFL right now and I challenge anyone here to name 6 starters in the NFL that are worse than Farve...


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WOW you are stupid... Alex Smith, David Carr, Bruce Gardowski, Charlie Frye, Jon Kitna, Rex Grossman... That was simple... I could name WAY more than that... Brett Favre is still one of the better quaterbacks in the league... IDIOT!!!
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1.)"when i think Favre i think int."...he is 4 ints. away from the record...that is not some misleading stat...that means he has thrown a ton of picks

2.)here is another stat you will call misleading:

NFL.com - NFL Stats

there are only 5 QBs in the NFL with a lower passer rating...

maybe that is an over-rated stat but it should still be an indicator to him that maybe it is time to call it quits

3.)if Farve has a comparable td to int ratio to that of Mannning and Mario then it is because he WAS very good...but right now you can not put his stats next to mannings...because they are not in the same league

4.)there are maybe 3 or 4 starting QBs that I wouldn't take over Farve at this piont in his career...maybe not Johnson, now that I look at Johnson's stats he is god awful as well...that is JMO...but you can't tell me he is going to be a top 10 QB next year...in fact I doubt he will be top 20...

5.) you act like 18 picks isn't that much
Let's hear the only 3 or 4 quaterbacks you would not take over Brett Favre idiot...
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WOW you are stupid... Alex Smith, David Carr, Bruce Gardowski, Charlie Frye, Jon Kitna, Rex Grossman... That was simple... I could name WAY more than that... Brett Favre is still one of the better quaterbacks in the league... IDIOT!!!
What do you mean by one of the better QB's? Top 15? Top 10? If you do, you're wrong. Grossman has his team in the super bowl, Kitna sctually put up pretty good numbers and Smith guided his team to almost the same record that Favre did and has actually shown improvement. I'm not saying any of these QB's are better than Favre or vice versa. However, being I could make some compelling arguments with these guys, I would love you to show me 16 QB's he's better than.

Look, if the guy wants to come back, that's his choice. However, don't tell me he's a QB who's still in the upper-echelon of quarterbacks because he's not.
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I think he is a great QB, he's not what he used to be but doesn't mean is bad. Favre still puts up some good numbers and proved all the Aaron Rodgers fans that Favre is better Rodgers (both played bad against Patriots but Favre would of played better is he hadn't been injured)I believe the Packers will step it up and atleast make the playoffs (but keep in mind I have a packer fan style of thinking)
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1.)"when i think Favre i think int."...he is 4 ints. away from the record...that is not some misleading stat...that means he has thrown a ton of picks
It is a little misleading because he has started about a total of 15 seasons as a qb. Now if you take Peyton Manning, who right now has averaged 15.5 tds a season, and put him in for 15 seasons, guess what that means. Ding ding, 300 some ints which sets the record. Oh god retire now Peyton your on pace to set the alltime ints record if you play for 15 seasons.

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there are only 5 QBs in the NFL with a lower passer rating...

maybe that is an over-rated stat but it should still be an indicator to him that maybe it is time to call it quits
Just like when ppl debated on Tony Romo, you can not use the qb rating as your only indicator. Look at his other numbers. Hes top 7 in yards, top 16 tds, and one of the least sacked qbs in the league. A lot of emphasis is put on int in qb rating, but they dont take in fumbles and sacks and other things like that.

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3.)if Farve has a comparable td to int ratio to that of Mannning and Mario then it is because he WAS very good...but right now you can not put his stats next to mannings...because they are not in the same league
I only use his numbers because he is the best qb out there and for a career, is on pace for the same amount of ints.

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4.)there are maybe 3 or 4 starting QBs that I wouldn't take over Farve at this piont in his career...maybe not Johnson, now that I look at Johnson's stats he is god awful as well...that is JMO...but you can't tell me he is going to be a top 10 QB next year...in fact I doubt he will be top 20...
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Like i said Favre has always been known as a gun sliger, and you were saying how these last few years he has been bad, but 18 picks is only about two above his career season averages.
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I don't think that most cheese heads could possibly be happy about this...

I honestly believe that Farve is one of the worst starting QBs in the NFL right now and I challenge anyone here to name 6 starters in the NFL that are worse than Farve...


(time for the "omg your crazy, Farve is greatness" replys)

i cant think of 6 but ben roethlisberger is worse by far
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What do you mean by one of the better QB's? Top 15? Top 10? If you do, you're wrong. Grossman has his team in the super bowl, Kitna sctually put up pretty good numbers and Smith guided his team to almost the same record that Favre did and has actually shown improvement. I'm not saying any of these QB's are better than Favre or vice versa. However, being I could make some compelling arguments with these guys, I would love you to show me 16 QB's he's better than.

Look, if the guy wants to come back, that's his choice. However, don't tell me he's a QB who's still in the upper-echelon of quarterbacks because he's not.
We have never siad he is a top qb, but by no means is he a bottom five guy. Grossman is not the man who put that team in the super bowl, the defense did. Just like when Kyle Orton went what 11-2 as a starter there, but he was not the reason.
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WOW you are stupid... Alex Smith, David Carr, Bruce Gardowski, Charlie Frye, Jon Kitna, Rex Grossman... That was simple... I could name WAY more than that... Brett Favre is still one of the better quaterbacks in the league... IDIOT!!!
if he is so good would you take him over Tony Romo? Carr is decent, and Grossman is in the SuperBowl, isnt that the game EVERYONE wants there team to be in?
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as much as i would like to see Farve, everyone should be consider this, he will always be a champion regardless of how many ints he throws this year or even if he doesnt make the playoffs. everyone remembers how average Michael Jordan was when he came back but what do you remember him by: 6 time champion. what about Deion Sanders? all i remember is he is a champion and the greatest cover corner of all-time. say what you want about the guy but there isnt a person on this board that wouldnt want to be in his shoes right now. i know i would.
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