Canadian Speed

How many you win before Spygate, how many you win after Spygate?

Fact, had the Packers made it the first time, you guys would have won because you guys already had film on them. The first time the Giants beat you guys, they were a long shot. The Pats sent the scouts to the wrong team.

Also, if you look at the Pats... Every time they play a team with a new coach, they do horrible. And those have included teams like the Dolphins, Bills, and other bottom feeder teams... Why? Because they haven't video taped them yet... It's far to coincidental to be false.

Believe what you want. But there are HUGE * next to all of those seasons. As there should be.

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PATS16N0

Now you're just rambling. Nothing you just replied with comes across as a rational, logical, well thought out, precise opinion. It looks more like a Wacco for Flacco post.
It's nothing but your wild speculations. You've presented no evidence (ZIP, ZERO, NOTHING) and when I say you've presented no evidence I literally mean you have presented NO EVIDENCE. Just wild speculations (and they're pretty wild), wild assertions without a shred of proof to back them up (NE was taping other teams instead of the Giants AFTER the story broke and this is why they lost the Superbowl? SERIOUSLY?), and really just a lot of the incoherent rambling one would come to expect from someone rabid with hate for an NFL team.

Your attempt to "prove" what you set out to prove (with speculation and third party speculation, apparently....) failed miserably.

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PATS16N0

In fact, the very fact that someone who raises the "Spygate" issue as obsessively as you do can't even put together a half coherent, logical case for the Patriots actually having "cheated" when pressed for it really makes me laugh. You bring this up so often I thought you would at least have SOMETHING to offer but when put to it all you can say is Hines Ward is mad about losing and the Jags had radio problems in a game they got torched 28-3, but they only had radio problems for the first half. Really just #&@^ing laughable. I can't take your "Spygate" allegations seriously AT ALL if this, after years of your venom, can only produce these flimsy and IRRELEVANT "facts" (testimony that's ultimately nothing but jaded speculation) to back up your opinion.

Maybe RealestWhiteBoy can come back and help you out because so far you've completely FAILED to demonstrate with any seriousness how the Patriots were "cheating"
All I see in your posts now are "I hate the Patriots! So I want this to be true!"

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Major Seahawk

Spygate is so old its not even funny, why do people still debate this

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Wicked Weasel

And here I thought this thread was a discussion on the best quarterback of all time.....

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WeWantTheVest

Joe Montana, easily.

Canadian Speed

The argument against Joe is the same as the one against Rice... While there is no denying that they were both pinacles of their respective positions, their impact on the game itself was not as profound as others.

With Joe, he was great, there is no question, but the impact that Steve Young had on the position of quarterback and the WCO offense is far greater. In other words, while Joe made it sing, people who are looking at running the WCO are looking for guys that resemble Steve more so then Joe. And if it wasn't for the insanity that was the Cowboys in the '90s, he'd have just as many rings as Joe... But he doesn't, I know.

With Rice, it's the same thing. He was a monster out there, but when people are looking for modern wide receivers, they look to guys who play like Michael Irvin more so then Rice.

Legacy counts... Just ask Barry Saunders.

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ChuckDee

Andrew Luck will be in this convo when it's all said and done.



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7 National Championships
7 Heisman Trophies
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog"
-Archie Griffin
ChuckDee - Old School fly guy

BU54

Who?
More like Sid Luckman!!

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10-7-07 Bears 27,Packers 20
12-23-07 Bears 35, Packers 7
Then Brett Favre became a Jet...