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Old 03-23-2008, 11:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
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thanx for proving me right about the pats corners, i dont quite understand the lito shepard example.
I'm saying we have REALLY bad CBs lol. Lito is the 3rd CB in Philly and I'd like to get him. But Hall isn't a team player, he gets burned, and has attitude problems. Thats all I'm saying.
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Old 03-24-2008, 09:37 AM   #22 (permalink)
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We lost 7 games by a grand total of 35 points last year with the #32 rated run defense.

You do the math.

hmm i wonder what a game breaking running back that can actually get 1st downs can do for a defense that stayed on the field for the majority of its games the previous year. maybe we should ask the Vikings, add Peterson with Chester Taylor and they had the #1 run D last year and its not like they threw the ball effectively last year, McFadden has the potential to do the same with Oakland because a fresh defense is a better defense, Minnesotas TOP last year was 11th out of 32, Oaklands was 25th so you do the math and by the way your run defense wasnt 32 Miami's was.
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Old 03-24-2008, 11:11 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Where did you learn football?

If we dont stop the run, McFadden will be standing on the sidelines like the rest of our offense.

That is hardly the way to close that point gap.

You win with defense and thats been proven hundreds of times now.

Ask the Pats.

Simply stuffing the run will give our offesne several more possessions each game.

Thats far more valuable than another RB.
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Where did "you" learn football? a great running attack means we can control the tempo and the clock I dont see how the run defense is not already better we have warren, just signed joseph and kelly, we have howard and morrison who are just going to get better not to mention burgess. Last season rookie jay richardson played well also.
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uhh, sapp retired dude. Dline has to be the first pick, HAS TO, but I would not be shocked to see them take McFadden
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Lets see now?

We had that ball control rushing attack and went 4-12 anyway.

McFadden wouldnt have made a bit of difference.

Theres only one ball.

Now had we stuffed the run?

This is basic stuff man.
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Lets see now?

We had that ball control rushing attack and went 4-12 anyway.

McFadden wouldnt have made a bit of difference.

Theres only one ball.

Now had we stuffed the run?

This is basic stuff man.




LaMont Jordan isnt the answer at RB, it took what 5 years for Justin Vargas to get any kind of significant playing time, Dominic James sucks, and Michael Bush is an unknown at this point. if you think that these guys are good enough to cut it your either:

A.insane like Al Davis

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B.learned football by watching the Arena League

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Where did you learn football?

If we dont stop the run, McFadden will be standing on the sidelines like the rest of our offense.

That is hardly the way to close that point gap.

You win with defense and thats been proven hundreds of times now.

Ask the Pats.

Simply stuffing the run will give our offesne several more possessions each game.

Thats far more valuable than another RB.

Chargers record in 2000 1-15
Chargers record after drafting LT in 2001 8-8

Vikings record in 2006 6-10
Vikings record after drafting Peterson 8-8

Bucs record in 1996 6-10
Bucs record after drafting Warrick Dunn 10-6

Bucs record in 2004 5-11
Bucs record after drafting Cadillac Williams 11-5

Seahawks record in 2000 6-10
Seahawks record after drafting Shaun Alexander 9-7

Dolphins record in 2004 4-12
Dolphins record after drafting Ronnie Brown 9-7

Saints record in 2005 3-13
Saints record after drafting Reggie Bush 10-6

im sure i dont need anymore examples to make my point. all of the teams i mentioned pretty much sucked just like your Raiders. they all had significant holes on the roster. when each of these teams drafted the stud RB of the draft they had enough turnaround to be at least a .500 ball club. all of these RBs made their respective teams better in very different ways except in the special case of Reggie Bush who lets face it sucks as a runner but the threat of having him break one opens things up for his team. now go ahead and doubt the presence of having a game breaking running back in the backfield can do for your team.
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Mcfadden has never carried the ball at the pro level and youve already annointed him a game breaking back?

How do you know who the answer is?

You seem to be forgetting a few things here my football challenged friend. Just like Robert Gallerys critics rip him for being a bust but fail to mention the team has had 4 run & pass blocking schemes in the last 5 years. When Fargas and Gallery were drafted, they had Bill Callahan runnign a hybrid man/zone blocking scheme. Then, Norv brought in Bob Colletto who installed a pure zone scheme. Then, Art Shell went to a pure man scheme. Now, we are running a zone/read scheme.

That effects everyone and that includes Fargas.

We had one of the best rushing attacks in the NFL last year.Yet, when you allow 150-200 yards rushing week in and week out, youre not going to win in the NFL.

Drafting McFadden wouldnt change that.

But shouldnt you wait to see him play at the pro level first?

Youre way ahead of yourself here dude.
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you guys had a ton of yards rushing, because you could NOT pass the ball. The passing attack was atrocious. I agree that switching schemes can hurt the progress of a line and cohesiveness with the skill position players, but Gallery was drafted to be a star Tackles and is a guard, no matter how you slice it, that is a bust.

I would think that most on here would agree that taking mcfadden would not be the correct move for the Raiders, but just as you say "how do we know who will be a great RB?" I say how can you be 100% sure that won't draft McFadden.

There is no need to call everyone lame or football challenged because they disagree with you, that is shortsighted and a bit ignorant, try being a little more open minded to others opinions and have some constructive conversation. the only thing useless remarks do is make you look foolish
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So teams thatstruggle to getthe ball downfield suddenly become great rushing teams?

Please dude, youre embarassing yourself.

Teams that struggle to get the ball downfield see tons of 8 and 9 man fronts which makes running the ball more difficult.

Duh!

Im losing respect for you fast my frien and I dont respond to those I dont respect.

Comments like that render you irrelevant.
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