Professor

Ok, I want Da Swami to explain this one. Dude sucks. He gets cut by Detroit and the Raiders give him 5 million over 2 years. I guess because the only good game he had last year was against the Raiders, so they decide to sign him.

Grunt said they didn't resign Clemons because they didn't want to give him less than a million per year, but instead they give 2.5 million to a scrub.

It makes ZERO sense. ZERO!!!!

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7...ith-DE-Edwards

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Da Swami

Im assuming, by the way you comment on this, that you have actually read the contract and the stipulations.

Is that correct?

Again you show your ignorance.

You dont know what the terms and conditions were in the Clemons contract demand and you dont know them here.

You sound stupid when you say things like that.

Define "sucks" for me.

Do you not realize that football is a team game? Do you not realize that some guys fit in a scheme better than others and some guys arent used properly? Im not making a prediction one way or another about how this signing will turn out but to make a blanket claim like the dude "sucks" is just laughable. I can tell you have no idea how many variations of the game there are and how those can effect things.

You ooze that out of you.

There are countless examples of guys who went to a coach that used them differently and they flourished. This guy is a temendous ATHLETE. That tells me there is upside and a good defensive coach can "reinvent" a player. A coaches job is to put players in the best possible position to succeed and they dont always do that yet its all on the player in your world.

Typical know nothing fan. You can cite stats, player careers, and all that crap but you have no idea what factors contribute to a players success and failure on the actual field.

You havent seen him play in our scheme so how can you say how he will pan out in OUR SCHEME?

You cant.....

Im trying to be fair with you but your cracking me up with your proclaimed ability to predict the future.

Can you go into more detail on the reasons WHY he sucks?

Then tell me how you know hes going to fail in another scheme with another coach.

I want it spoken in footballese......

Professor

by fair do you mean condescending and insulting, you are hilarious.

you called me stupid, ignorant, know nothing


You are closed minded, ego driven, short sighted to name a few.


Kalimba Edwards sucks. Plain and simple. I watched him play in detroit and dude LOOKED like he COULD be something, but was about as inconsistent as they come. HE HAD SHAUN RODGERS on the interior. You must not have watched that guy play. He took so many plays off and seemingly once gets down. decides to give up. Like I said, dude had 1 good game last year, it was against Oakland.

Edwards needs to be on 3-4 team, not a team that runs the 3-4 very infrequently, he has no ability to sack the QB from the Line, none. At best I see him as a guy that will come in on passing downs to play end. Is that worth 2.5 million a year. I think not, when you could have had clemons who was already doing that for much less. He is purely a situation pass rusher and not a very good one judging by history which is the best foreteller of the future.

Not only that, by your own admission, your team needs help against the run to return to prominence, it is a fact that Edwards is TERRIBLE against the run.

You have a 3-4 OLB who plays inconsistent and takes plays off, playing at DE in a 4-3 where he already proved in Detroit that he can't play. LMAO

All this spending does is tell me that they ARE REALLY going to try and trade down, which would be the smartest move. It also tells me that they are definitely goint to draft a DT. They need line depth and now DT is the most needed.


Keep acting like you are the king of football knowledge on a FU*KING message board. If you are so intelligent, then maybe the Raiders should hire your genius.

Give me a break dude. You HOPE Edwards works out, but all the signs point to that he won't. Keep those pipe dreams alive though buddy, LMAO!!!!

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Da Swami

Can you read?

I didnt call you stupid. I said you sound stupid when you write stuff like what you wrote.

Obviously,you dont understand the different variations of 3-4 and 4-3 do you?

All you told me is that things didnt work out in Detroit.

I dont have the room or the time to comment on how many factors can influence this.

You dont know the relationship he had with management, whether he was happy with the way he was being used, blah blah blah I can go on and on.You dont know the locker room stuff man so your one size fits all application of the game is amusing at best.

You dont even know what role the team plans to use him in because the team doesnt even know yet. You said that he needs to play on a 3-4 team right? How do you know the team isnt getting players that can fit a 3-4 package that they want to insert?

You are ASSUMING they got him to be the starter and the end all answer to our DE situation.

If you dont know what the teams plans are, how can you say right now whether this is a good fit?

Youre talking out your *** and blowing smoke.

Professor

Al Davis is a 4-3 man, he may let the DC run some plays in 3-4, but will never allow a switch to the system. Also, Clemons is perfect for a 3-4, if they were going to switch why would they overpay a guy who has done nothing when they could have had clemons much cheaper.

now you are backpeddling and double talking. LMAO!!!!

You are right that I don't know about Edwards relationship with management, LOL, but I do know that 2 seasons ago EDwards could have left Detroit for a number of teams, but he chose to stay in Detroit, so I don't think his relationship was that terrible.

Futhermore, you don't know the relationship either, I am going on what I have seen on the field and what has been said about him by players and coaches that have been with him. Neither of which category that you fall in

I have seen him play, he sucks, I don't care what the assistant to the GM or cap management specialist was invited to his house or was even his friend.

A player is defined by what he does on the field. Do you think the Lions drafted him and then resigned him thinking they weren't going to try and use him to his abilities. you really are a closed minded obvious raiders fan. They are about as closed minded as they come.

Also, I know they signed him to be the starter, unless you think Richardson is going to start over him, LMAO!!!

you said you didn't call me stupid, just that I sounded stupid, Now I guess you are going to argue semantics as your football argument is weak at best. What about ignorant or know nothing, among others

People like you say he is finally spending money because he is sick of losing, well I say, why was he not sick of losing after the first losing season. It took 5 years for him to get sick of it.

Get off your high horse and realize that your team is making some QUESTIONABLE at best moves, but you won't. You are that predictable.

Someone with such a keen knowledge of the game only posts in the Raiders section. You used to play safety at a division 42 correctional facility does not make you an expert of the game.


Here is you


wah wah wah, Raiders have only sucked because they lost their nucleus 5 years ago and have been tolerating a loser unti Al finally decided buy a bunch of guys and hope they can become a cohesive unit, LMAO


Why don't you go ask the redskins what happens when you try and buy a winner?

Al just decided to sell some shares of the team in order to overpay for a bunch of players that as of now have absolutely ZERO chemistry


I'll talk to you when the Raiders are folding, no wait, you'll be long gone and I'll be sending you password reminders everyday!!!!

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Da Swami

How old are you?

Grow up.

Your facts are sketchy at best.

Al is a 4-3 guy?

Youre talking to a long time Raider fan dude. Al won 2 SBs with a 3-4 with Charlie Sumner.

So much for that claim.....

Al prefers a 3-4 and in the day, he would rotate a 3-4 with a 4-3. He brought Ryan in because of his familiarity with both the 4-3 and the 3-4.

Get your basic facts right will ya?

Next, I never said that Edwards was the answer. I said Im not predicting one way or another. You injected that because I didnt say that. I dont know Edwards, I dont know what type of coach that he responds to. I dont know his relationships with his teammates. I dont know his coaches in Detroit. I dont know Rob Ryan. Players respond different to different coaching styles. Not only that, you are making a huge assumption that Detroit was using him right and maximizing his skills.

You seem to have him pidgeon holed as a 3-4 player who "sucks"

You also know he was brought in to start too?

I could have sworn we still had the draft to deal with.

That is lame.

In order for you to make that claim with expertise, you would have to know every one of the answers to the questiins above and you dont. Now, you may very well be right but it wont be out of some knowledge of the game. The team doesnt even know how he will fit in yet which is why they bring guys in for a look.

We still have the draft too.

But questionable moves?

You are a prophet too?

But let me see now, you watched all Atlantsas games so you know Hall. You watched all Detroits games and studied game film to the point where you can say all this. You also watched every Carolina game so you know about Drew Carter too.

Do you work for an NFL team?

You would have to to know all this. The truth is that youre just some punk Charger fan that will put a negative spin on anything the team does. We could sign Deacon Jones in his prime and you would say it was a bad move. You havent conceded one point so from that I gather that the Raiders NEVER do one thing right and are condemned to football hell for eternity.

You hate the Raiders and it is clear from the vitriol and venoum you spew.

You wont even concede the smallest of improvements that were evident to everyone last year.

You havent conceded even the smallest things.

Not one thing.

Im used to it dude, I know how it must burn you up knowing that its 2008 and your team still has never won squat.

I tried to keep this from going here but youre insistence on winning an argument rather than engaging in football talk is nauseating.

Go away punk.

Dawardoe

Kalimba Edward is next to worthless...end of story.

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Professor

he is and worthless still made the team, lol

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Da Swami

That is the best you can do?

I went and checked out a little on this guy and read everything that you read. However, you forgot to mention a few things about his injuries and athleticism.

How convenient of you to leave that out.

Nobody knows how thgis will work out so dont think that you can go to a few websites, read a little, throw out some terms like 4-3 and 3-4 and think we will mistake that for actual football insight.

Desmomd Howard was consided a bust but he played a huge role in the Packers winning SB XXXI. Holmgren found a role for him and that may be what happens here.

So far, Im not the one predicting anything. I have said that I will wait and let the team evaluate his potential to play a role.

Kiffin has stated that D line will be the priority in the draft so if this guy does nothing but provide depth, then I am fine with it. Kelly can play both DE and DT so our defense has a ton of flexibility and having a guy who can play both DE & OLB is another dimension that he adds.

Hes a tweener thats all.

You dont know how any of this will work out.

But hey?

According to you, Al Davis is a 4-3 guy right?

If you cant even get stuff like that right, why should anything you write be considered credible?

That explains the short response with no input.

Guys like you crack me up.

You contribute nothing to this board.

Professor

you are the biggest homer I have ever seen and that includes chris_douche

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