Pro Bowl is overrated as far as judging how good a player is. Plus you gotta remeber Dallas has had a huge void at FS since Woody D hung them up, so locking up a quality player. The tag is something alot of teams dont use, even for a Saftey
Years of going to the pro-bowl are overrated but it takes a bit to get there the first time and in that year it's a very good indicator of how well a player has performed, after that is when the "rep" comes in and you start to see guys like Larry Allen keep going and going, but the first year you pretty much earn it.
Teams tag a guy when they NEED that guy. Wilson was basically replaced by 2 rookies, one of which was undrafted. He is 26 and if he was considered a STAR he most definitely would have got the tag. Out of all the teams I have only heard the Bears say they don't like to use it and that's why they didn't tag Berrian. In the Giants situation Wilson was fazed out by 2 first year players and just put out to pasture. That doesn't happen to stars, maybe one with problems (drugs or other off the field stuff) but not guys like this. The tag would have cost them roughly 4 million for at least another season and they just let him ride.
Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good player but nothing near a star. If he were to come here he would be out of position and who knows what you get at that point? If they got him it would have to be in a combo, maybe him a DE like Odom or Laboy and a WR (Berrian, Johnson or Hackett) then you could draft a CB or something but he is not a "prize" FA by himself.
Dude, Wilson played his first year at FS this year and had nearly 100 tackles and 4 picks in 13 games. He is all over the ball. He even played great when teamed with bum James Butler. I would welcome Wilson who excelled in spag's defense that happened to be something he took from jim johnson when he worked for the EAGLES.
Dude, Wilson played his first year at FS this year and had nearly 100 tackles and 4 picks in 13 games. He is all over the ball. He even played great when teamed with bum James Butler. I would welcome Wilson who excelled in spag's defense that happened to be something he took from jim johnson when he worked for the EAGLES.
Nearly, meaning 78 tackles?
Maybe you should look to see why he was moved to FS to begin with. He has been considered a guy on the decline ever since an impressive rookie year and that was just 4 years ago. Now that they have won a SB he is the man again.
The bum James Butler? You mean the one playing the position that Wilson couldn't hold? You mean the undrafted one?
Wilson, a 26-year-old free safety, doesn't figure to get nearly as much money as Samuel and probably fits better with the Eagles in terms of need.
Even though last week's rumor that the Eagles had given Lito Sheppard permission to seek a trade wasn't true, it did raise some red flags about the cornerback's level of contentment with his contract. The Eagles, meanwhile, have concerns about Sheppard's ability to stay on the field because he has missed 14 games over the last three seasons.
But the bigger concern has to be at free safety. Not only is Brian Dawkins coming off a season in which he missed six games and had just one interception, but also he'll turn 35 in the middle of next season and is heading into the final year of his contract.
The Eagles say Dawkins is a future Hall of Famer, but it remains to be seen if they think he's their immediate future at free safety.
Wilson, who had four interceptions last season and 11 in his four seasons with the Giants, would be a nice fit because he already knows defensive coordinator Jim Johnson's system after spending last season with Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnoulo, a former Eagles assistant.
The Giants want to re-sign Wilson, but they opted against using their franchise tag on the safety.
Dude had 10 tackles+assists against Dallas and 3 PD's in the playoffs
The Giants have never used the tag on anyone ever, so it is not surprising they didn't use it really. Wilson is on the verge of being a top safety and I am willing to pay it with all the money we have to spend
and your article you linked to a story from the before the season, the season he made the probowl
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The information you posted was and is pointless. You say this guy is a star and he ISN'T! Ed Reed is a STAR Safety. A number of safeties are stars, Wilson is not.
How many people in the NFL are "on the verge" of being a star???
The article I posted was to show the point that the guy couldn't handle his duties at SS and was moved to FS because he was basically losing his aggressiveness, that's not good for a SS.
As I stated before, something has to be said about a guy who just lost his job to an undrafted rookie FA at SS and a 6th round pick at FS...THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO STARS, especially 26 year old ones...unless of course Butler and Johnson are stars...
If they're intentions are to get him as a back up to Dawkins that's fine, but he is in no way the prize FA you are making him out to be. Could he be? Maybe. Is he? No, and it's really that simple at this point. Even if we were to sign him, where does he play? SS? Well what if he cant handle that like he couldn't in NY, then what?
not one time in that article does it say he was switched to to FS because of his lack of aggressiveness, In fact he was moved to FS because they needed a FS. It doesn't even mention the switch to FS in that article one time. LOL
He isn't losing his job to those guys, The Giants never franchised a player, they don't believe in it. Butler is a bum and and most Giants fans if not all will tell you the same. Your article even says he is a learner and a studier and would get to learn with Brian Dawkins. No one said he IS A STAR. rather he will be a star and that is all opinion, I think he is definitely worth the salary
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not one time in that article does it say he was switched to to FS because of his lack of aggressiveness, In fact he was moved to FS because they needed a FS. It doesn't even mention the switch to FS in that article one time. LOL
Yeah, more of a read between the line kind of thing, sorry you couldnt gather that, it's hard for some people lol
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He isn't losing his job to those guys, The Giants never franchised a player, they don't believe in it. Butler is a bum and and most Giants fans if not all will tell you the same. Your article even says he is a learner and a studier and would get to learn with Brian Dawkins. No one said he IS A STAR. rather he will be a star and that is all opinion, I think he is definitely worth the salary
Where is it that they dont believe in it?
OK, next time I will believe what Giants fans tell me and not see what the coaches do, thanks for the laugh.
Again, I will say I like him. I just dont the fit for him right now, he is asking for 5 million right now and that is a ton for a back up FS, but if yuo think he's worth that to back up then that's fine. I'm fine with having him but it has to be the right combo.
EAGLES really wanted Trufant or Nmadi
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