K Train

not quite but in his first 2 years everyone was all like oh well hes no manning or brady....but thats not fair, he came into the league and shined with the steelers, its unfair to say he sucks and has no room to grow as a QB when most QBs are just having there breakout year in their 3rd or 4th year.....well he had a setback last year but he is poised to have a breakout, comeback player of the year season....whether that happens or not is yet to be seen but dont blame him for being drafted to a good team and coming in week 2 of his rookie year, going 15-1 in his first year and 27-3 in his first 2 years while leading the way to the superbowl, even if he had a bad superbowl....he had an amazing 3 game playoffs before it, but no one remembers those games.

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BeastJacobs

I remember those games. I'm saying Big Ben is Super Man because of that Appendectomy he got he came back like a week ahead of schedule and played in a game and he took some damn punishment in that game.

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K Train

which was dumb lol, he was awful in that game, i cant believe cowher let him play in 90*+heat and a fever after a serious surgery 10 days before.....just retarded imo, not my favorite cowher or ben decision...batch could have handled jacksonville

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BeastJacobs

Shows that he loves the game and will play no matter what.

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stormdriver

I didn't say a word in this thread about that joke of a Super Bowl. YES, Ben sucked it up in that game. YES, that trophy was gift wrapped with black and yellow paper before the game even began. YES, you're right, you didn't deserve that win, as Seattle outplayed you in every category. Is that your fault? Is that Ben's fault? Is that anyone on that team's fault? NO. No one can blame the Steelers for what happened, regardless of how they benefited from it. As I've said before, now you have a trophy that you'll spend more time defending than celebrating, what fun is that?

Back to Mr. Roethlisberger. I would never base my opinion of any player on his performance in one game. Even if that game is the SB. I base my opinion on inconsistent play, failure to effectively lead, and dependence on talent around him to win. Those are issues he had since day one. He came in to a team that had an amazing defense, a killer running game, a line anchored by two sure HOFers, and very high caliber receivers. Who couldn't win with a team like that? I'll tell you. Tommy Maddox. So when he went down and Ben came in, Ben looked great. Was that because he was a top ten QB? No, it was simply because he was a lot better than Maddox. So a really good team, having rid themselves of the cancer under center, becomes a playoff team. Then a SB team. Then the talent around him starts leaving. A defender here, a HOF RB there, a Pro Bowl special teamer, bit by bit until it becomes an average team. Then his true colors came out, and he showed that without people around him being able to make plays, he's just another Eli Manning.

You'll continue to call me a hater. I don't care. Ben will continue to be himself, and the Steelers will continue to lose, and you, my friend, will be looking at a top ten pick next year. So says the one man who called your non-playoff finish last season. So call me a hater. But just remember what I said when the time comes. Better yet, "mark it down".

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Professor

so, when are you two going to make an avatar of shame bet?

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Serrated Shadow

Do i sense a wager coming?

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Serrated Shadow

How many times have we done that now Prof? like 3 or 4?

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Professor

at least, lol

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K Train

i will bet you an avatar of shame for a solid year and status as a supermod they dont end up with a top ten pick, and all your points if you can get any, i'll give you 100-1 odds with whatever points you can come up with by the end of the season

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