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Old 05-15-2007, 06:27 PM   #3661 (permalink)
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lego @ May 15th ) [snapback]2001789[/snapback]</div>
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so...wait...he's not god's gift to quarterbacking? he's not the second-best QB in the league? what a difference a season makes.
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ben's always had a slow deliberate release. we're not saying he sucks, just that that isn't his game.
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:39 PM   #3662 (permalink)
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Just because that isn't his game doesn't take anything away from him really. Manning is horrible when the play doesn't go as planned. Does that make him any less of a passer?

And yeah, if Ben gets back to how he played two years ago Lego, he's one of hte best in the league. Just like he was that year. It isn't a hard concept.
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:50 PM   #3663 (permalink)
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Post-Gazette

Steelers' Keisel loves new role as rover
STEELERS MINICAMP

Tuesday, May 15, 2007
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette








Forget whether the Steelers will run a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense. Are NFL offenses ready for their 99 alignment?

It does not yet have a name, but 99 might be appropriate given the tasks the player wearing that jersey number will be asked to do in some new defenses.

Defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau hopes that Brett Keisel can do for his front seven what strong safety Troy Polamalu does for his secondary -- a do-it-all from all over the field. Keisel still will be listed as the team's right defensive end on the depth chart, but in new defenses LeBeau introduced at the minicamps, he can wind up anywhere, before the snap and after it.

"He's just technically a roving linebacker is what he is," LeBeau said. "He's moving around, depending on where we put him and tell him where to end up. He won't always be just rushing as he is as a defensive lineman. We think he can cause some offenses some problems."

Think Mike Vrabel and former Raven Adalius Thomas of New England, or Junior Seau in his heyday. All three of them are linebackers. Keisel is a 6-foot-5, 285-pound end with a linebacker's mentality and athletic ability. He led all Steelers defenders with 23 quarterback pressures last season playing in a 3-4 scheme designed for the outside linebackers to pressure the quarterback. His 5.5 sacks ranked third on the team, 1.5 behind leader Joey Porter (who had 12 pressures).

Kevin Colbert, the Steelers' director of football operations, said the defense did not put enough heat on quarterbacks last season, so using Keisel in this manner is a way to try to get more pressure, plus confuse the quarterback.

Keisel served as an emergency backup outside linebacker the past two years and can play there if they need him.

"He's shown us the athleticism that lets us know he can operate in space and yet present some pretty good problems size-wise up there at the line of scrimmage," LeBeau said. "We're going to try to take advantage of his particular talents there."

In the new defenses, Keisel can line up in a three-point stance at right end and, at the snap of the ball or just before it, jump up and rush from the left -- or middle -- or drop into coverage. He can stand up in his initial alignment anywhere along the front, then switch into something else.

"I love it," said Keisel, who cut his teeth on special teams before he became a full-time starter last season. "I think it just really causes the offense problems. They don't know if I'm rushing or if I'm dropping into coverage. They don't know where I'm rushing from. They don't know if I'm containing or coming up the middle. It causes a lot of problems for them.

"We'll do it out of the 3-4, do it out of the 4-3, we'll do it out of everything."

His teammates seem to love it as well.

"They just have him moving around, trying to get the offensive linemen to know where he's at all times," left outside linebacker Clark Haggans said. "Sometimes he's blitzing inside, sometimes he's coming off the edge."

Keisel said he takes his inspiration from Polamalu, who can cover an entire field even before the snap. Polamalu has lined up outside of left end and at the snap of the ball speed around right end to blitz.

"He comes up and acts like he's doing one thing and does the complete opposite," Keisel said. "He's the master at it, no question."

If Keisel can pull it off, it will give a new meaning to disguising defenses.

"When the defense is called, I know where I'm supposed to be at the finish at the snap of the ball," Keisel said. "We're just experimenting with some things right now and, hopefully, we'll run them right and we can use them."

LeBeau has used players in a similar way in the past, but never in his two tenures with the Steelers. He has to go back to the late 1980s, early '90s to a player named Skip McClendon with the Cincinnati Bengals, who was 6-6, 300. But McClendon only had eight sacks in his entire career.

Baltimore has done it a lot, although with Thomas gone to New England it might prevent the Ravens from effectively deploying those types of defenses.

"It's a lot of what Baltimore did last year, they caused offenses a lot of problems," Keisel said. "Hopefully, we can do the same thing."

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Aint it amazing what Lebeau will be able to do now that blockhead is gone?
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:59 PM   #3664 (permalink)
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Now that's good news.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:42 PM   #3665 (permalink)
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It's amazing what our offense will be able to do now that Cowher is gone, the tight end might actually strike fear in the heart of a defense.
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Ben is fine, delivery and all, when he reads the D right. Example, the TD to Holmes that ended Cincy's season. His problem is the presnap reads and where to go with it. If he progresses in that phase of his game his release is no problem. People blame the release but it's not. It's indecisiveness, IMO.

As for LeBeau, I thought all along he wanted to be more aggressive and innovative with the D. Cowher didn't like to move people around and kept everyone in the same position. To predictable IMO. For example, everyone in the stadium knew Joey Porter would be lined up at ROLB all game. Why not move him around? Same with some of the others.

As for Keisel, that's all well and good but IMO this is just a prelude to Woodley (hopefully) becoming an "elephant" type of guy like when the 49ers had Charles Haley. A 3-4/4-3 hybrid type of D.
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:54 PM   #3667 (permalink)
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I am more excited to see this offense unleashed than I am to see what changes Tomlin makes to the D.
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Old 05-16-2007, 01:09 PM   #3668 (permalink)
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i just want to plant some QBs in the ground and get off the field on 3rd downs.
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I just want to see our new punter.


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Old 05-16-2007, 02:33 PM   #3670 (permalink)
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lego @ May 15th ) [snapback]2001789[/snapback]</div>
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so...wait...he's not god's gift to quarterbacking? he's not the second-best QB in the league? what a difference a season makes.
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McNair wasn't some greek god like we heard from Ravens fans last year either. Yeah,he looked like the NFL MVP that many of you guys thought he could be in contention for.
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