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Old 10-01-2008, 06:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default big ben now among elites officially

altho he just started in 2004, he's now reach the minimum of 1500 attempts to be among the official stats.
the all time passer rating goes as this.

1. steve young
2. peyton manning
3. kurt warner
4. tom brady
5. ben roethlisberger
6. joe montana

of course i wont accept ben as a no.5 since he's just started his career as you compare the rest of the players years thye had put inot the nfl. but thats what it is now.

he's also no. 5 in YPA as far as passing is concern.

also everyone in the top 6 are superbowl winners.
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Interesting, though considering his efficiency, not surprising. How do his other numbers match up?
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961 of 1,519 (63.3%), 12,311 yards, 8.10 YPA, 88 TDs, 56 INTs, and a 92.52 passer rating

Here is the top of the all-time leaderboard in career passer rating:
Steve Young – 96.81
Peyton Manning – 94.25
Kurt Warner – 93.52
Tom Brady – 92.91
Ben Roethlisberger – 92.52

Roethlisberger’s top-five spot in YPA is probably more impressive than his top-five spot on the all-time passer rating list.

After all, YPA seems to have a higher correlation to winning than does the more complex passer rating formula. The difference is not too great. In fact, the two often move in lock-step (just look at the example of Big Ben, No. 5 all time in both categories). But YPA often seems to be a more telling stat and it tends to cut across different eras more often than passer rating (which clearly favors contemporary passers).

Yards per attempt is also an attractive indicator because it's so cut and dry that even the casual fan can comprehend what it means. Plus, there is probably no individual stat in all of sports with such a high correlation to winning
Here is the top of the all-time leaderboard in yards per attempt:
Otto Graham – 8.63 YPA
Sid Luckman – 8.42
Norm Van Brocklin – 8.16
Kurt Warner – 8.14
Ben Roethlisberger – 8.10
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I definitely think that YPA is indicative of greater efficiency, though some of it is reliant upon the offensive scheme of course. I wonder if there's any way to go a bit deeper into it by factoring in short v. deep pass attempts/completions...
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you could. i can help you get started.
nfl.com or coldhardfootballfacts.com are sites taht can help provide the stats.
big ben, i hate this guy. i thought it was interesting for the squeelers to know.
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Thanks, I'll have to check those sites out - let my inner stat geek come out to play.
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