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07-28-2006, 02:44 PM
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First round Draft pick status
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07-28-2006, 03:13 PM
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That is to much money for a rookie(talkin bout Vince Young).
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07-28-2006, 03:30 PM
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and it threw off the whole curve.
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07-28-2006, 05:35 PM
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Oh they should just pay them all. Read this excerpt from an NFL.com article:
“The NFL beats all other sports combined for being a well-run business. Franchises are financially stable; television ratings stay strong while ratings of other team sports falter; gate attendance sets a record every year; merchandising is so efficient it's hard to escape NFL gear.Popularity and financial stability mean ever-rising real-dollar payments to players.”.
Following the 1998 draft, the Chargers signed Ryan Leaf to a four-year contract worth 31.25 million, including a guaranteed $11.25 million signing bonus. That is lot of money putting aside that Leaf is largely regarded as one of the biggest flops in sports history. Nowadays that kind of cask is scoffed at for a no. 2 overall pick. But back in 1998 the old CBA was in place and many agents and team negotiators had not figured out many modern loop-hols to NFL contracts. When Forbes Magazine comprised it's NFL Team Value Chart they found that the Chargers were worth 393 million dollars with about 27 million in cap space (16th on the list with Washington bieng the richest and Arizona in the cellar). When the Chargers cut Leaf in 2000 the team was had taken total control of merchandising and stadium advertisement amd they saw a 22% increase in total revenue raising their worth significantly higher. By 2002 the San Diego Chargers had already fully recuperated the 11.25 million that it paid to Leaf in real money and had regenerated the 6.7 percent of cap space that he took up.
What this tells us is that even a mildly a poor team in the NFL can throw vast amounts of cash to even the crappiest player and fully recover in just a matter of few years. The new Collective Bargaining Agreement allows teams more cap space and more cash to heave at unproven rookies.
I say that they should just pay them. Especially for high market players that are sure to turn you team around financially. If you have fan favorite players, fans will pay to see them, in essence helping you pay that 60 million dollar deal they inked. And if they tank, well who cares they cant all be golden
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07-28-2006, 05:39 PM
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but it is getting rediculous how unproven players are getting more money then the leagues best
it'll have to go down, these big contracts are mostly due to the higher cap in the cba (seeing how it just started this year), once old contracts run out FA's will be wanting more money aswell
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07-29-2006, 04:26 AM
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Rookies should be forced to accept a 3 year deal worth the lueage minimum. It would be much easier.
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George: The jerk store just called, they're running out of you.
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George: I slept with your wife!
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07-29-2006, 11:27 PM
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ok fielding i hear ya, but that shouldn't allow these rookies to come in to the league and dictate what they are going to make, that only increases the veteran players salaries and then increases the rookie contracts and so on and so forth, this escalation has to be contained at some point or at least controlled to the point where the escalation is slowed.
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07-30-2006, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by professorellisdtrails
ok fielding i hear ya, but that shouldn't allow these rookies to come in to the league and dictate what they are going to make, that only increases the veteran players salaries and then increases the rookie contracts and so on and so forth, this escalation has to be contained at some point or at least controlled to the point where the escalation is slowed.
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Oh contraire, Dr, Watkins. Alot of people fail to realize that the NFL is a bussiness. If you're intervieweng to be a high ranking associate of a fortune 500 company you are not going to ask for peanuts. Though I sometimes claim that the NFL is a bazzarre universe onto its own, there is some ral world aspect to it.
Let's go back to that company for a moment, the applicant has fought his way through the ruble and proven himself worthy of being a CEO, Chairman, President, ect, he is up for a promotion and with it comes a HUGE pay increase. Its the same in the NFL. Most start playing football at a young age, some since pee wee football. move thier way up the ranks on to JR. High, High School, College then up to the draft. The pee wee leagues start at age six by the time they make it to the draft that counts for 15 years of football expirience.
People mock rookies and call them unproven, and green but its the same way in the real world. There is no way to know if that applicant will make a good CEO but he is the best man to consider. Rookies bust because they fail to adjust to footballs grandest stage not becuse they lack talent. NFL draft classes are the best the nation can muster. They should come in here and ask for as much as they can. Because after 15 years of playing football well, its time pay teh piper. Trust me, NFL can afford it.
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07-30-2006, 12:17 AM
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The one thing the NBA got right is rookies, rookies are given salarie by the order they are drafted, fixed contracts that they have to accept
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George is scoffing shrimp at a meeting.
Reilly: The ocean just called, they are running out of shrimp.
George: The jerk store just called, they're running out of you.
Reilly: That shouldn't be a problem since you are there all time best seller.
George: I slept with your wife!
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07-30-2006, 12:18 AM
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BYAAAAAH!!!!!
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I don't have a problem with big money, but when a rookie is the highest paid guy at his position in the entire NFL(Vernon Davis), that is a joke.
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