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**ingibbsitrust** · 01-08-2007, 03:30 PM

http://www.monk4thehall.com/

This video will respectfully refute some of the main arguments against Art Monk's induction into the Professional Football Hall of Fame with the most potent evidence available: VIDEO evidence from Monk's 16-year career of quiet brilliance.

Click the link below to view the full video. For best performance, right-click the link, download the file and launch it from your computer's hard drive. Alternatively, you can view the sections of the video separately. Scroll down the page a bit for those links.

Monk for HOF - Full Version

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The video is a big file, but it started steaming for me in less than 10 seconds and ran fine (I have cable internet) the first link to the home page offers other ways of viewing..

I've never seen a case put together like that -- refutes everyone of Peter King's and Dr. Z's arguements for keeping Monk out, iteam by item with some classic footage and comments from some of the all time greats.

Watching this made me think of a player today that Monk reminds me of.... Marvin Harrison.... all these clips and comments made me think of him in today's game...

Anyway a nice piece, very well done

"Art Monk - 16 year career of Quiet Brilliance"

LudeDude98 · 01-08-2007, 04:10 PM

just watched that whole video, thanks man that was awesome.

I've said in a thread prior about who should be in the Hall and my vote goes to this man, truly one of the best.

**34_Fan_4_Life** · 01-08-2007, 07:24 PM

Definately a HOFer.

Most definately BEFORE Michael Irvin.

**krzyroone** · 01-08-2007, 08:40 PM

No argument here - that guy should be in the Hall

**ingibbsitrust** · 01-09-2007, 11:15 AM

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that video was very well done... cool classic footage with the comentary of the time...

**DoubleStar** · 01-09-2007, 12:42 PM

the comment about Irvin is true. Monk deserves it BEFORE Irvin, but then Bob Hayes deserves it BEFORE Monk. The point issss, it doesn't matter who it is that deserves to go in, there are plenty that have been passed over by a bunch of bozos who shouldn't be casting votes!

**ingibbsitrust** · 01-09-2007, 05:45 PM

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the comment about Irvin is true. Monk deserves it BEFORE Irvin, but then Bob Hayes deserves it BEFORE Monk. The point issss, it doesn't matter who it is that deserves to go in, there are plenty that have been passed over by a bunch of bozos who shouldn't be casting votes!
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I couldn't agree with you more

Bullet Bob Hayes changed how defenses played -- teams HAD to change zone to have a chance at covering him... he was the first real example of the term "speed kills" Someone who skills and play caused such a huge change fundamentaly in how teams play defense should be in the HOF and any voter who thinks other wise should not be a HOF voter, period.

It's not only a shame he's not in, but if and when he does get in, it's a shame the HOF voters didnt get there heads out of their asses to put him in before he died

**DoubleStar** · 01-09-2007, 05:49 PM

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I couldn't agree with you more

Bullet Bob Hayes changed how defenses played -- teams HAD to change zone to have a chance at covering him... he was the first real example of the term "speed kills" Someone who skills and play caused such a huge change fundamentaly in how teams play defense should be in the HOF and any voter who thinks other wise should not be a HOF voter, period.

It's not only a shame he's not in, but if and when he does get in, it's a shame the HOF voters didnt get there heads out of their asses to put him in before he died

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Basically, I have said the exact thing in his defense. The system does NOT work. Its time to get something new done to reward those who are deserving. The voters need to understand that its not about what they think...its about the players.

URL54MVP · 01-09-2007, 06:11 PM

If Art Monk sent Peter King a truckload of lasagna, I bet he'd change his tune.

**ingibbsitrust** · 01-09-2007, 06:23 PM

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Basically, I have said the exact thing in his defense. The system does NOT work. Its time to get something new done to reward those who are deserving. The voters need to understand that its not about what they think...its about the players.
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I've mostly heard that it was because of his drug abuse and post football life problems

First off, Hayes' speed undeniably changed the way pass coverage was played in the NFL. In that sense, he was a ground-breaker deserving of lasting recognition.

Secondly, Hayes' career statistics measure up to Hall of Fame stature, especially if touchdowns are considered the game's greatest currency. He scored 45 TDs in his first 4 years - at a time when teams ran more and they only played 14 games -- the only 2 WR with more TDs in there 1st 4 years is Rice (49) and Moss (53) and they had 8 more games to do it in.

And lastly, a good number of Hall of Fame-level football figures seem to think that Hayes belongs among the game's greats, despite his well-documented troubles with substance abuse and addiction, as well as a brief prison term.

I'm not sure if there's has been one HOF voter or a group that has actively lobbied against Hayes... Peter King has been so against Monk that in an inview a few years back, he stated that he actually spent his own money to fly around to homes of other HOF voters to persuade them not to vote for Monk... again

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