Join Date: Aug 2005
Young, Vick fail under pressureBy Todd McShay
The official scores from the Wonderlic Tests taken at the combine were released. As usual, there were some interesting results. Texas QB Vince Young did indeed take the test twice. The league has been tight-lipped regarding his first score, but the higher score of his two attempts was a 15. Young's score was bad, but not the worst of this year's quarterback class. That honor goes to Virginia Tech's Marcus Vick, who scored an 11 on the test.
A perfect score is 50, and the highest score any player posted in this year's class was a 41 (Oklahoma DT Dusty Dvoracek). The lowest score of this year's class was an eight (Syracuse DE Kader Drame, Alabama ILB Freddie Roach, Louisville DT Montavious Stanley, N.C. State TE T.J. Williams and Oklahoma DC Chijioke Onyenegecha), and the average score of all the quarterbacks was a 24.6.
The Wonderlic Personnel Test (WPT) is a short-form intelligence test that measures players' ability to think on their feet, follow directions and make effective decisions under pressure. While Young and Vick exposed their weaknesses in those areas, other quarterbacks shined. Grambling's Bruce Eugene (41), Montana State's Travis Lulay (37), USC's Matt Leinart (35) and Oregon's Kellen Clemens (35) all posted impressive scores.
Prospects at other positions who excelled include Ohio State OC Nick Mangold (35), Tulsa TE/FB Garrett Mills (35), Oregon LB Keith Ellison (36), Cal-Poly State DE Chris Gocong (36), Cornell OL Kevin Boothe (37), Virginia WR Marques Hagans (37), Stanford DT Babatunde Oshinowo (37) and Boston College OT Jeremy Trueblood (37).
Others didn't fare so well, such as Penn State DC Alan Zemaitis (9), Marshall DC Chris Hawkins (10), Miami DE Javon Nanton (10), South Carolina DS Ko Simpson (10), Central Missouri State WR Delanie Walker (10), Syracuse DE James Wyche (10), LSU WR/RS Skyler Green (11), Tennessee DB Jason Allen (11), Clemson DE Charles Bennett (11), Abilene Christian DB Danieal Manning (12), Texas Tech DS Dwayne Slay (12), South Florida RB Andre Hall (13), Pittsburgh DC Josh Lay (13), UCLA TE Marcedes Lewis (13), Mississippi State RB Jerious Norwood (13) and Tarleton State RB Derrick Ross (13).
Pro Days Report
The two most recent Pro Days were held at Florida State and UCLA on March 16th. The overall speed and athleticism of Florida State's prospects is impressive. Leading the charge was DC Antonio Cromartie, who missed all of last season with a knee injury, but elected to leave school early.
There are still questions regarding his rustiness, durability and technique, but Cromartie's physical tools are outstanding. After running two 40-yard dashes in the 4.3-range and notching 42 inches on the vertical jump, Cromartie could sneak into the latter portion of the first round. OLB Ernie Sims (5-foot-11, 234 pounds) and DE Kamerion Wimbley (6-4, 248 pounds) also impressed. Sims ran a 40-yard dash in the 4.4's, and Wimbley ran the short shuttle in 4.41 seconds.
TE Marcades Lewis was one of the players who helped his stock the most at UCLA's Pro Day, as he posted impressive times in the short shuttle (4.53) and long shuttle (12.62). Lewis also notched 22 reps on the standard 225-pound bench. Unfortunately, his below average speed and suspect blocking skills may prevent him from being selected in the first round. RB Maurice Drew, satisfied with his impressive times at the combine, participated only in the position drills. QB Drew Olson threw the ball well during passing drills, but his performance in the 40-yard dash (5.19) did not help his cause.
Other notable schools that hosted Pro Days this week include Alabama, Oregon State and South Carolina. At Alabama, OLB DeMeco Ryans helped his draft value by improving on his 40-yard dash times from the combine (4.69 and 4.72). He posted times of 4.64 and 4.65 this time around, while also displaying impressive quickness and instincts during position drills.
QB Brodie Croyle did not run, but was nearly flawless during his passing drills, impressing scouts in attendance with his arm strength and accuracy. ILB Freddie Roach did not help his cause by posting 40-yard dash times of 4.88 and 4.87, while only churning out 18 reps on the 225-pound bench press.
The Oregon State Pro Day was failry unimpressive. WR Mike Hass will likely still be a late-Day 1 or early-Day 2 prospect, but running the 40-yard dash in the 4.6-range did not help his cause. LBs Trent Bray (6-3, 227) and Keith Ellison (6-2, 230) were also uninspiring. Bray posted two miserable 40-yard dash times of 4.90 and 4.89, while Ellison ran in the 4.7-range. For undersized linebacker prospects, those times are especially damaging.
South Carolina's Pro Day provided some positive feedback. DC Jonathan Joseph and DS Ko Simpson both kept their excellent workout numbers from the combine, but impressed with their agility and quickness during position drills. However, the rest of the group was uninspiring. Most notably, RB/FB Daccus Turman ran the 40-yard dash in the 4.9-range and OT Jabary Levey pulled his hamstring during his run, which was timed at 6.01 seconds. Levey will run later in the month once he has healed.
Most scouts I've spoken to agree the most impressive Pro Day so far took place in Columbus, Ohio, where Ohio State prospects such as OLBs A.J. Hawk and Bobby Carpenter, DSs Donte Whitner and Nate Salley, WR Santonio Holmes, DC Ashton Youboty, ILB Anthony Schlegel and OT Rob Simms all turned in strong performances. The Ohio State track is notoriously fast, which is why NFL teams typically add one-tenth of a second to each of the 40-yard dash times.
Regardless, the 40-yard dash times turned in by Hawk (4.44), Holmes (4.34), Whitner (4.39) and Youboty (4.41) were excellent. Carpenter didn't display tremendous straight-line speed in the 40, but impressed scouts with his fluidity and athleticism in agility drills, and during his position drills. Hawk, Holmes, Youboty, Carpenter and Whitner could all come off the board in the first round of the upcoming draft.
Below is a schedule of upcoming Pro Days. I will continue to update the players helping and hurting their draft stock the most over the course of the next few weeks.
March 18: Michigan State and Pittsburgh
March 20: East Carolina, Harvard, Iowa, Richmond, South Carolina State, Southern Miss, Southeast Missouri State and William & Mary
March 21: Mississippi, Monmouth, New Mexico, North Carolina, Syracuse and Virginia
March 22: Howard, Mississippi State, North Carolina State, Rutgers, Southern Illinois, Texas and Texas State
March 23: Auburn, Connecticut, Duke, Georgia, Miami-OH, North Carolina Central, Notre Dame (2nd) and Shippensburg (Pa.)
March 24: Colorado State, Georgia Southern, Hofstra, Indiana State, Louisiana Tech (1st), Memphis, Northwestern State (La.) and Portland State
March 27: Houston and Rice
March 28: Jacksonville State and Utah State (2nd)
March 29: Arizona State (2nd), Central Florida (2nd), New Mexico State, Tennessee (2nd) and Utah
March 30: Carson-Newman and Stephen F. Austin
March 31: Louisiana Tech (2nd) and Purdue (2nd)
April 2: Southern Cal.